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			<title>Home Link issue...</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:06:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So I live in a gated condo community.  So I have a gate to get in to the community and my garage door.  I'm able to get my garage door to work with home link by putting my garage door in learning mode or whatever. 
 
My issue is I cant get the home link to open up the gate to the community.  I hold...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I live in a gated condo community.  So I have a gate to get in to the community and my garage door.  I'm able to get my garage door to work with home link by putting my garage door in learning mode or whatever.<br />
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My issue is I cant get the home link to open up the gate to the community.  I hold down the home link button...it blinks slow...press the button on the remote and then the home link light starts to blink fast which tells me it accepted the code, however it never opens the gate.<br />
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I've also held down buttons 1 &amp; 3 to clear the codes and tried again...no dice.  Anybody have any suggestions?<br />
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The homelink in my GS400 opens both the gate and the garage so I'm really confused here....<br />
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			<title>Dual lumbar massage rear seats and butterfly headrests in 2010 models</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:45:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Upon reading a Lexus Singapore article about how the 2010s add massage for both rear seats, I checked and yes indeed, the 2010 LS 460 and LS 460 L offers dual lumbar massage rear seats...this is different from the multi-function shiatsu/shoulder massage which the Exec reclining seat gets, however...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Upon reading a Lexus Singapore article about how the 2010s add massage for both rear seats, I checked and yes indeed, the 2010 LS 460 and LS 460 L offers dual lumbar massage rear seats...this is different from the multi-function shiatsu/shoulder massage which the Exec reclining seat gets, however it restores a massage function for both rear seats as in the Ultra Luxury LS 430.<br />
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The lumbar massage controller is in the armrest (high res version of photo shows more detail). The dual rear seat lumbar massage is confirmed here:<br />
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<a href="http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/features/pricing.html#JOption%20Packages" target="_blank">http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/featu...ion%20Packages</a><br />
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				Power lumbar massage and 4-way lumbar adjustment for <b><u>outboard rear seats</u></b>
			
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Details were buried in the press release and didn't get a lot of attention to my knowledge:<br />
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				Lexus offers several LS 460&#8217;s option packages.  The Comfort Package includes a power trunk closer, Intuitive Park Assist, heated rear seats and heated and cooled front seats.  The Comfort Plus Package includes those features plus semi-aniline leather, power rear seats with lumbar massage and power butterfly headrests, and rear seat-mounted side airbags.<br />
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A Rear Seat Upgrade package for the LS 460 L models now includes lumbar massage and power butterfly headrests for the power rear seats with memory and lumbar massage and rear seat-mounted side airbags. The rest of the package remains as before, with dual-zone rear air conditioning with air purifier and additional rear air ducts, additional wood trim, rear cool box, rear door power sunshades, and rear audio controls.<br />
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The Executive Class Seating Package for the LS 460 L likewise now includes power butterfly rear headrests and lumbar massage for the <b><u>left rear seat</u>. </b>The rest of the package continues as before and includes four-zone independent front and rear air conditioning with Lexus' Air Purification system and ceiling climate diffusers; rear-door power sunshades with a fixed rear console and foldout table; and a <u><b>right rear-seat recliner </b></u>with ottoman leg rest.
			
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We still don't get the 5-seat Exec function, with its rear seat storage drawer, DVD player slot, etc., however.<br />
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<a href="http://lexus.jp/models/ls/comfort/longbody/veruz5.html" target="_blank">http://lexus.jp/models/ls/comfort/longbody/veruz5.html</a></div>

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			<title>Got my LS460 today...have some questions...</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:16:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So I finally got my LS460 delivered to me today.  Now that I have driven it more than just the good ol' test drive I have some questions for current owners who can shed some light. 
 
1st Observation....Engine noise....should I really hear the engine as much as I am from the cabin?  My 2000 GS400...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So I finally got my LS460 delivered to me today.  Now that I have driven it more than just the good ol' test drive I have some questions for current owners who can shed some light.<br />
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1st Observation....Engine noise....should I really hear the engine as much as I am from the cabin?  My 2000 GS400 is quieter than this thing.<br />
<br />
2nd...Are there any known issues with AFS?  It looks like when I turn the headlights on and I make a turn I can see the headlight move to the left and then after that it disables itself and tells me to go to the dealership.<br />
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3rd....I noticed a smell coming from the engine in the cabin.  I'm hoping this is because the car has been sitting around for a month and hasnt really been driven much.  This did seem to subside though after driving around for a while.<br />
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It does seem to drive nice.  Definitely different than my GS400 but its like a boat gliding through the water..lol.<br />
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I will be taking it in for service next week to have the wind noise issue resolved as I noticed this the minute I test drove it.<br />
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If any of you can shed some light on some of the questions I have that would be great and if there is anything else I should look out for please let me know.  I have about 23,000 miles left on my warranty and would like to get all my issues addressed.<br />
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Thanks again!<br />
<br />
Tony</div>

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			<title>Job Design Bodykit</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:14:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Anybody know of a reasonable priced retailer for the Job Design bodykit for my 07LS460?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Anybody know of a reasonable priced retailer for the Job Design bodykit for my 07LS460?</div>

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			<title>GS400 wheels on a LS?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:53:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have some Niche staggered wheels on my GS400.  I was just curious if the GS400 and LS460 have the same bolt pattern.  I want to eventually get new wheels for the LS but if I already have some nice ones for the GS might as well throw them on the LS for the time being. 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have some Niche staggered wheels on my GS400.  I was just curious if the GS400 and LS460 have the same bolt pattern.  I want to eventually get new wheels for the LS but if I already have some nice ones for the GS might as well throw them on the LS for the time being.<br />
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Thanks.</div>

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			<title>Nav. override</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:14:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Read on another post, that he had installed a Nav. override. 
Is there a kit available?  Have 2007 LS. 
Thanks, 
Joe</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Read on another post, that he had installed a Nav. override.<br />
Is there a kit available?  Have 2007 LS.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Joe</div>

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			<title>What month in 2007 models did double laminated glass come about?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:03:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I searched and found that apart from a few minor updates the glass was updated in "late" 2007 models. When (what month) does one consider a 2007 model to be late and have that upgrade?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I searched and found that apart from a few minor updates the glass was updated in &quot;late&quot; 2007 models. When (what month) does one consider a 2007 model to be late and have that upgrade?</div>

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			<title>Tire recommendation LS460L</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:09:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,  
Haven't posted in awhile.  Will be needing new tires soon and would like recommendations...2007 LS460L 18" tire. 
Live in NE but don't drive Lexus in snow.  Dealer recommends Michelin Pilot Sport.  Says better wearing tire, but with same road handling features. 
Also, have there been...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone, <br />
Haven't posted in awhile.  Will be needing new tires soon and would like recommendations...2007 LS460L 18&quot; tire.<br />
Live in NE but don't drive Lexus in snow.  Dealer recommends Michelin Pilot Sport.  Says better wearing tire, but with same road handling features.<br />
Also, have there been any problems with standard susp.  My front end and rears wheels were completely out of alignment.<br />
Have only 20M in 2.5 years mostly by me.  Car is driven easy plus I haven't hit any major pot holes etc.  Drive did not pull drove straight.  Yet right front tire wore badly on out edge.  <br />
Just wondering.  Joe S</div>

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			<title>LS suspension problem</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:03:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a 2007 LS 460L with adaptive air suspension and 65,000 miles.  Lately I have been hearing a thumping sound when I go over even small bumps and sometimes the whole car seems to shudder (can feel in steering and seat of the pants) before returning to steady ride.  Dealer in my small town where...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have a 2007 LS 460L with adaptive air suspension and 65,000 miles.  Lately I have been hearing a thumping sound when I go over even small bumps and sometimes the whole car seems to shudder (can feel in steering and seat of the pants) before returning to steady ride.  Dealer in my small town where only a few are sold or seen for repair is stumped.  Service mgr. admits he too can hear and feel the problem, but they do not know what component(s) to replace to fix the problem.  One new shock absorber in the rear costs $1,100 plus labor.  Anyone have any suggerstions?</div>

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			<title>JIC FLT-TAR Coilovers Installation</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:52:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Does any one have any instructions to install JIC Coilovers?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does any one have any instructions to install JIC Coilovers?</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[How long do you think I'll have to wait...?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:36:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>....until I can find a dealer willing to sell me a loaded 2010 LS 460 Sport for invoice? When will they begin to deal?  
 
I can wait for while.  If it matters, I live near Seattle, but would consider flying to pick-up anywhere in the West. 
 
Thanks, 
Kurt</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>....until I can find a dealer willing to sell me a loaded 2010 LS 460 Sport for invoice? When will they begin to deal? <br />
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I can wait for while.  If it matters, I live near Seattle, but would consider flying to pick-up anywhere in the West.<br />
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Thanks,<br />
Kurt</div>

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			<title>Finally joined the LS club</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:59:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>One of the dealers that knew i was waiting for a 2010 AWD SWB called me yesterday saying they had one.  Wrong color combo when I went but they had their inventory list of what was coming.  After driving the new 2010 they had and maybe 30 minutes of talk I secured an AWD SWB w/ ML/comfort/cold...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>One of the dealers that knew i was waiting for a 2010 AWD SWB called me yesterday saying they had one.  Wrong color combo when I went but they had their inventory list of what was coming.  After driving the new 2010 they had and maybe 30 minutes of talk I secured an AWD SWB w/ ML/comfort/cold weather pkgs for $1k over invoice. :woohoo:  The invoice I had them show me was just about what was on-line so I felt pretty happy with this deal.  I got what I thought was great $ on my trade RX330 (avg of full trade-in for the 3 big sites - nada/kelly blue book and edmunds).  So if they can make any $ there more power to them.<br />
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So it seems the dealers are willing to talk. :D  Now I must wait until they come in but it will be worth the wait.  I will post pics when she comes in.<br />
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I do have a question ( I will search forum later to see if it was discussed) but what are owners feeling on having the permashield - or permabond film installed especially when I live in the northeast?  Have most who have had it been happy or am I wasting $ there?  Thanks.  redlight30 (now patiently waiting!!)</div>

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			<title>Lamisafe glass installation</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:20:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Team -  
 
I've performed the JMcraney fix and am pondering the Lamisafe TSB as well. There's nothing like factory work so I'm hesitant... Have any of you had an imperfect install the first go round or have you been satisfied with the dealer work? 
 
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Team - <br />
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I've performed the JMcraney fix and am pondering the Lamisafe TSB as well. There's nothing like factory work so I'm hesitant... Have any of you had an imperfect install the first go round or have you been satisfied with the dealer work?<br />
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Thanks!</div>

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			<title>Buying a used LS460 in low 40s...fact or fiction?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:21:58 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My parents are tired of our BMW constantly needing to go to the shop so I proposed that they look at a used Lexus LS. We test drove one at the dealership which my dad absolutely loved. They were asking 61K for a 2008 with 9k miles...I basically told them to f off and no. We're in no real rush...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My parents are tired of our BMW constantly needing to go to the shop so I proposed that they look at a used Lexus LS. We test drove one at the dealership which my dad absolutely loved. They were asking 61K for a 2008 with 9k miles...I basically told them to f off and no. We're in no real rush though my dad believes we may be able to get one for a ridiculously low price (low 40s out the door) late December as a means of last minute incentive for salesman. Anyway I had a few questions before I began my quest to seek out the ideal car. <br />
<br />
1) I know that no changes were made between 2007 or 2008 but are there any major reasons I should opt for the '08 over the '07? <br />
<br />
2) Does a car with the Navigation / ML speakers automatically mean that it is &quot;fully loaded&quot; and have the automatic parking sysem?<br />
<br />
3) What do you think is the best price I can get an 2007 LS (both short and long base) &quot;fully loaded&quot; with less than 40k miles for? <br />
<br />
4) Will purchasing the vehicle closer to the new year really help or is this just myth?</div>

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			<title>Did I pay too much for my LS460?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:22:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Just wanted to get some opinons from everyone. 
 
Just bought a 2007 LS460 Black Sapphire Pearl/Alabaster fully loaded minus the executive package.  I paid 43K for the car with 27,600 miles on it. 
 
All opinions are welcome. 
 
Thanks.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just wanted to get some opinons from everyone.<br />
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Just bought a 2007 LS460 Black Sapphire Pearl/Alabaster fully loaded minus the executive package.  I paid 43K for the car with 27,600 miles on it.<br />
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All opinions are welcome.<br />
<br />
Thanks.</div>

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