Oil pressure hose failed
#76
Lexus Champion
I had the VVTI oil hose on my car replaced today. The dealer had the car for about 2 1/2 hours and that time included the accelerator/floor mat recall. The Service Manager said they now have the necessary parts and have more coming in as the Service Campaign progresses.
#77
It showed up on my MyLexus page as well.
My question is will Lexus replace it with an all metal line?
If not, will they replace the rubber hose every 30-40,000 miles?
This will "solve" the problem for now. By the time this problem rears its ugly head the cars will be well out of warranty and not Lexus' problem.
My question is will Lexus replace it with an all metal line?
If not, will they replace the rubber hose every 30-40,000 miles?
This will "solve" the problem for now. By the time this problem rears its ugly head the cars will be well out of warranty and not Lexus' problem.
#79
I must say I am shocked that Lexus stepped up to the plate and agreed to put the metal line on at no additional cost. It can be done for those who would rather have the metal line. It still is at the shop so we will see when I look underneath the hood.
#80
Intermediate
Believe it or not, from a strictly "parts price" perspective, if you were to purchase the "full metal line" versus the "part metal, part rubber composite line" , the full metal line is actually the same price or as I recall a little cheaper.
Of course, when they do the bulletin they are simply popping out the middle rubber portion and putting in an "improved rubber" portion. The two metal ends are not being touched.
If they replace the entire line to "all metal", there is more labor involved as the whole line is being removed & replaced.
The bottom portion of the line goes into the engine right behind the power steering pump.
My dealer removed the pump for access to that area.
Of course, when they do the bulletin they are simply popping out the middle rubber portion and putting in an "improved rubber" portion. The two metal ends are not being touched.
If they replace the entire line to "all metal", there is more labor involved as the whole line is being removed & replaced.
The bottom portion of the line goes into the engine right behind the power steering pump.
My dealer removed the pump for access to that area.
#81
Took my car to dealer for service today.
When making an appointment, the girl on the phone said that they will replace the VVT-i hose. However, the service manager apologetically said that they would like to do both the hose recall AND gas pedal recall at once. But they only have limited supply of parts for the latter, therefore I'll have to wait for a letter from them to get the job done later. I didn't care much, because it still would be an extra visit. Just hope that the hose does not blow up before then.
He specifically suggested to bring the car with empty tank for recall job. Apparently Lexus authorized giving free gas top-off for inconvenience. I'll make sure that my gauge is on "E".
This is my first trip to the dealer since I bought the car, and I was not pleased with the cost of an oil change. I guess I'll be going to local Toyota for my routine oil changes. This time I wanted to get a few small nuisances taken care of under warranty.
When making an appointment, the girl on the phone said that they will replace the VVT-i hose. However, the service manager apologetically said that they would like to do both the hose recall AND gas pedal recall at once. But they only have limited supply of parts for the latter, therefore I'll have to wait for a letter from them to get the job done later. I didn't care much, because it still would be an extra visit. Just hope that the hose does not blow up before then.
He specifically suggested to bring the car with empty tank for recall job. Apparently Lexus authorized giving free gas top-off for inconvenience. I'll make sure that my gauge is on "E".
This is my first trip to the dealer since I bought the car, and I was not pleased with the cost of an oil change. I guess I'll be going to local Toyota for my routine oil changes. This time I wanted to get a few small nuisances taken care of under warranty.
#82
I was on the way to the dealer this morning to get tires rotated and balanced. About 2 miles from the dealer at a red light I noticed a small amount of smoke coming from the front of the car. By the time I got to the dealer, there was a lot of smoke and burning smell. Parked the car in the bay area and sure enough there was oil on the floor underneath my car. Service manager said it was probably the hose as they had this happen to several ES350's. Mine is an early 2006 build as I purchased the car in 4/06. Have not heard back from the service advisor yet so not sure what the resolutiion will be. I continue to be very disappointed in the quality of this automobile. I have 65k on it and have had nothing but problems from the get go. Most major issue was the replacement of 2 camshafts and oil leak around the head. Both happened in the 40k range.
#83
Lexus Test Driver
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I was on the way to the dealer this morning to get tires rotated and balanced. About 2 miles from the dealer at a red light I noticed a small amount of smoke coming from the front of the car. By the time I got to the dealer, there was a lot of smoke and burning smell. Parked the car in the bay area and sure enough there was oil on the floor underneath my car. Service manager said it was probably the hose as they had this happen to several ES350's. Mine is an early 2006 build as I purchased the car in 4/06. Have not heard back from the service advisor yet so not sure what the resolutiion will be. I continue to be very disappointed in the quality of this automobile. I have 65k on it and have had nothing but problems from the get go. Most major issue was the replacement of 2 camshafts and oil leak around the head. Both happened in the 40k range.
#84
On Easter weekend last year the same thing happen to my 2007 ES350. I was on the highway coming home from out of town and was a couple of miles from my home when I started seeing the smoke and smelling oil. Open the garage door and parked. I got out and looked underneath and oil everywhere. Call Lexus roadside assistance the next day and they sent a tow truck to pick up my car. No oil in the motor what so ever. It took about 2 weeks to fix because they had to order the part(oil line). That was ok though drove the new RX for that time, but sure missed my ride.
#85
I had mine done yesterday and the dealer does not know anything about a metal replacement hose but said that it's a redesigned rubber hose that should not exhibit this problem.
I also got the Floor Mat recall done which included a reprogram of the ECU to close the throttle if the brake is pressed while the throttle is open.
I also got the Floor Mat recall done which included a reprogram of the ECU to close the throttle if the brake is pressed while the throttle is open.
#86
I am in Southern California. I saw this service campaign in Mylexus.com so I scheduled an appointment for next Saturday at Longo Lexus (El Monte, CA) to have this hose replaced. When i called this dealer about this part, the parts rep told me it is another rubber replacement (instead of a all metallic).
Does anyone know which dealer carries this metallic replacement part here in California? I hate to replace it with a bandage solution.
Does anyone know which dealer carries this metallic replacement part here in California? I hate to replace it with a bandage solution.
#87
Intermediate
Keep in mind the "923" Customer Service Campaign only calls for replacing the existing rubber hose with an "improved" rubber hose.
As far as your geographic location in CA, it's not really a case of where you are as to availabilty of the "all metal line". The TOYOTA part number is 15772-31030 for the line itself.
There are also two metal washers involved too.
It is always a question as to whether or not your dealer can/will do anything for you if you wish to deviate from the campaign as written which calls for rubber hose and about 1 hour labor. The all metal line option is definitely more labor intensive.
As far as your geographic location in CA, it's not really a case of where you are as to availabilty of the "all metal line". The TOYOTA part number is 15772-31030 for the line itself.
There are also two metal washers involved too.
It is always a question as to whether or not your dealer can/will do anything for you if you wish to deviate from the campaign as written which calls for rubber hose and about 1 hour labor. The all metal line option is definitely more labor intensive.
#88
I had my recalls done on Thursday. Did not get free tank of gas, but at least they threw in a free brake job. My rears pads were at 3mm after only 22kmi.
I am not too worried about rubber vs metal hose. If you compare what was there before - ACM rubber
http://www.robinsonrubber.com/pdfs/P...ylicRubber.pdf
to what they are installing there now - FKM rubber
http://www.robinsonrubber.com/pdfs/FKMRubber.pdf
it is clear that they had wrong stuff selected when they were engineering the engine. New "improved" rubber should do the job well enough.
I am not too worried about rubber vs metal hose. If you compare what was there before - ACM rubber
http://www.robinsonrubber.com/pdfs/P...ylicRubber.pdf
to what they are installing there now - FKM rubber
http://www.robinsonrubber.com/pdfs/FKMRubber.pdf
it is clear that they had wrong stuff selected when they were engineering the engine. New "improved" rubber should do the job well enough.
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Just got off the phone. First I made an appointment for next week to get all of my recalls gone. Yes recalls mats (second time) oil line, reflash ecu and pedal. Tried to get the dealer to install the all metal oil line for the recall. Said that they were only allowed to install the crappy rubber one. Then called corporate and got he same song and dance. I'm about done with them, I don't have to pay big bucks for a car and be treated like this. I can buy from anybody for less and be treated the same way, poorly. Oh yeah, there is two fixes, one is halfassed and the other cost more. So lets do the cheap one and hope those people get rid of their cars before we have to replace their hoses again or even worse the whole engine. I thought Lexus was different, not really, just more expense and the most arrogant.