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Old 10-24-12, 12:21 PM
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Old 10-24-12, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleBen
Michelin Primacy
Smooth? Road noise? bumpy?
Old 10-25-12, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sdloeffler
Smooth? Road noise? bumpy?
Smooth - yes.
Road noise - yes, but you'll have some road noise, no matter which tire you pick.
Bumpy - no.

See my earlier post. We just did our third trip 500km +/- trip since we have the car, and we have no complaints. But you know what, people are expecting the same level of quietness and smoothness as in prior years' ES350; and I don't think they'll find that. The suspension is more than just a little firmer-- the downside is that you feel the road a little more.

Lexus is also using low rolling resistance tires in order to remain competitive on the fuel efficiency front. But again, the downside is that not only will low resistance tires wear out faster but they will also be noisier and you'll feel the bumps more, and that applies to both 18s and 17s.

Notwithstanding, are the 18s noisier than the 17s? Probably; but not enough IMHO to offset the better look of the 18" wheels. If there's a little cabin noise on the highway, I just crank up the ML a notch or two and I'm in heaven.

Your best bet is to go to the dealer and try them both for yourself.
Old 10-25-12, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleBen
Lexus is also using low rolling resistance tires in order to remain competitive on the fuel efficiency front. But again, the downside is that not only will low resistance tires wear out faster but they will also be noisier and you'll feel the bumps more, and that applies to both 18s and 17s.
Thats not really the case, the Michelin Primacy is a LRR tire, and its very smooth and quiet and has excellent tread wear.

See my earlier post. We just did our third trip 500km +/- trip since we have the car, and we have no complaints. But you know what, people are expecting the same level of quietness and smoothness as in prior years' ES350; and I don't think they'll find that. The suspension is more than just a little firmer-- the downside is that you feel the road a little more.
They'll find that if they buy the car with the 17" wheels. The firmness you're talking about comes from the 18's on your car.
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Anyone with a ES300H went from there 17's to 18's aftermarket or dealer installed notice a drop in MPG?
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Bump this for some current thoughts...even from some with 19 & 20's...great thread btw.
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I see this thread dates back from Oct 2012.
Anyhow, I recently test drove an ES 350, one using Michelin 17" and the other, 18" I believe it was Bridgestone.
The 18" wheels gave a more rough ride, unquestionably. We felt every little bump in the road. Road noise was no different in the short drive we took. We gave up on the 18" and bought the ES with 17" wheels. Very happy with it, though steering is way too light for me, and not enough feeling of control (road feel).
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