Pricing Thread - Deals you are getting?
#661
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You will likely NEVER need that $1,800 warranty. Personally, I do not bet that a vehicle is going to break when the manufacturer and the insurance companies are betting that it won't. Dealerships often "catch" people that are coming from cars that have been or are breaking down on a regular basis. A car valued at only $1,500 is the type of vehicle that may well have needed constant care. Owners of those types of maintenance nightmares mistakenly transfer those concerns artificially to the new vehicle.
New vehicles are covered by manufacturer warranties for the first 4 years or 50K miles (in this case). So, if you buy a policy four years earlier than you HAVE TO, you get zero, zip, nada for those first 4 years. You can ALWAYS wait until just before the warranty is going to expire and then buy an extended warranty contract ...if you are still THAT paranoid after owning the car the prior 4 years.
The finance logic behind my statement above...
$1,800 today is worth approximately $2,934.85 at a 13% return for those 4 years. Most investment accounts made over 18% rate of return last year so 13% is "conservative" in today's market. The reality is that the $1,800 you spent yesterday was really more spending close to $3K four years from now.
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Second, do you really believe the dealer really put $4000 on your trade-in when your car is just worth $1500???
It is simply just a reduction of selling price.
Well, it is a information forum here. If you want to ask questions, please ask. If you do not want to and think it is useless to you, just pass it.
#663
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I will never understand the obsession with OTD pricing. As has been stated several times over, it's meaningless. Just about as meaningless as factoring in dealer installed options, such as film, wheel locks, etc, as well as trade-ins.
MSRP (sticker price from Mfg) = X
Negotiated price (being upfront with all incentives offered at the time) = Y
X-Y=total savings
Things outside that equation: Trade-in, window tinting, warranty, etc... These are a separate negotiation and should be considered as such. It is usually extremely difficult to separate the two, unless you have no trade-in and are paying cash.
That said, it makes for some interesting reading and gives others a glimpse into other's buying experiences. I know I didn't get the best deal back in March of '13 (~7% off MSPP), but I was pleased with the deal. That should be the bottom line for anyone looking to purchase.
MSRP (sticker price from Mfg) = X
Negotiated price (being upfront with all incentives offered at the time) = Y
X-Y=total savings
Things outside that equation: Trade-in, window tinting, warranty, etc... These are a separate negotiation and should be considered as such. It is usually extremely difficult to separate the two, unless you have no trade-in and are paying cash.
That said, it makes for some interesting reading and gives others a glimpse into other's buying experiences. I know I didn't get the best deal back in March of '13 (~7% off MSPP), but I was pleased with the deal. That should be the bottom line for anyone looking to purchase.
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First, you should be aware how much your car is really worth and what its appraisal value could be.
Second, do you really believe the dealer really put $4000 on your trade-in when your car is just worth $1500???
It is simply just a reduction of selling price.
Well, it is a information forum here. If you want to ask questions, please ask. If you do not want to and think it is useless to you, just pass it.
Second, do you really believe the dealer really put $4000 on your trade-in when your car is just worth $1500???
It is simply just a reduction of selling price.
Well, it is a information forum here. If you want to ask questions, please ask. If you do not want to and think it is useless to you, just pass it.
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Just got my new 2015 Lexus ES 300h in Cerritos, CA 90703
Exterior Nebula Gray Pearl
Interior Black
MSRP $47,084
Got it for $41,585 + ttl, about 11.5% off MSRP.
Happy and excited!
Exterior Nebula Gray Pearl
Interior Black
MSRP $47,084
Got it for $41,585 + ttl, about 11.5% off MSRP.
Happy and excited!
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2013 prices holding firm
Oct 2014 Report: Does the apparent glut of creampuff 2013 ES350s result in appreciably lower prices?
Answer: At least in suburban Chicago, asking prices are holding firm.
The big picture: across North America, there are hundreds of beautiful 2013 ES350s for sale. And the same dealers have a bunch of 2014s, and, now, 2015s to move. Is it time for some flexibility in "real" asking price for the now 2-year-old ES350s?
Specifically: Tradein 1-owner car, 12k miles, spotless. Nav plus Blind Spot Monitor, otherwise base. Public asking price: $35.3k. After some conversation and a test drive, the real price was $34.7k.
I was looking in the 32k neighborhood, so the gap was too great.
Interestingly, the price could be lowered by $1k by foregoing the CPO warranty.
No effort was made to price in a trade-in; I did not expect any for a 15 year old Passat.
These were supposedly "Costco" prices.
Hope this helps somebody.
Answer: At least in suburban Chicago, asking prices are holding firm.
The big picture: across North America, there are hundreds of beautiful 2013 ES350s for sale. And the same dealers have a bunch of 2014s, and, now, 2015s to move. Is it time for some flexibility in "real" asking price for the now 2-year-old ES350s?
Specifically: Tradein 1-owner car, 12k miles, spotless. Nav plus Blind Spot Monitor, otherwise base. Public asking price: $35.3k. After some conversation and a test drive, the real price was $34.7k.
I was looking in the 32k neighborhood, so the gap was too great.
Interestingly, the price could be lowered by $1k by foregoing the CPO warranty.
No effort was made to price in a trade-in; I did not expect any for a 15 year old Passat.
These were supposedly "Costco" prices.
Hope this helps somebody.
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Hello, guys, I have checking the forum for awhile. I just closed my deal from Sewell Dallas.
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
#669
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Hello, guys, I have checking the forum for awhile. I just closed my deal from Sewell Dallas.
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
#670
lomein123 - I am sure she will love it.
#671
The finance logic behind my statement above...
$1,800 today is worth approximately $2,934.85 at a 13% return for those 4 years. Most investment accounts made over 18% rate of return last year so 13% is "conservative" in today's market. The reality is that the $1,800 you spent yesterday was really more spending close to $3K four years from now.
$1,800 today is worth approximately $2,934.85 at a 13% return for those 4 years. Most investment accounts made over 18% rate of return last year so 13% is "conservative" in today's market. The reality is that the $1,800 you spent yesterday was really more spending close to $3K four years from now.
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That is exactly the deal of the year.
I bought mine there as well. I think we have the same exact car (MSRP 46928 and Starfire Pearl Color)
In my case, my OTD price is $42,500. However, I trade in a car which is appraised at $1500. So yours is about $1242 lower than what I have paid.
Maybe you should teach us how you achieve such great deal.
I bought mine there as well. I think we have the same exact car (MSRP 46928 and Starfire Pearl Color)
In my case, my OTD price is $42,500. However, I trade in a car which is appraised at $1500. So yours is about $1242 lower than what I have paid.
Maybe you should teach us how you achieve such great deal.
Hello, guys, I have checking the forum for awhile. I just closed my deal from Sewell Dallas.
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
Thanks for all the help from the forum. Here is my deal, I hope it can help others too.
The sales person says it's the deal of the year. What would you think?
2014 ES300h Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 30
MSRP: $46,928
Extra freebies not included in the MSRP: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $40,000 + TTL
ODO: $42851
%off MSRP: 14.8%; if you count the freebie, would be 15%.
Also I was negotiating for the ES350 at first. The dealer ok with the price. However my wife wants go with hybrid at last minute(it's her car). So here is the deal for 350. Hope it help too.
2014 ES350 Luxury package w/ Navigation
Color: Starfire Pearl
Mileage: 15
MSRP: $44238
Extra freebies: window tint, all weather floor mat, edge guard
Final price: $37,950 + TTL
%off: 14.2%
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I am looking to purchase 2014 ES350 Premium Package (no Nav) in Houston, TX
Swong mention he/she got it for 35,700 last month.
I emailed internet manager at every dealers, but everyone said it's too low
Please help me make my purchase? Thank you
Swong mention he/she got it for 35,700 last month.
I emailed internet manager at every dealers, but everyone said it's too low
Please help me make my purchase? Thank you
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Is that $35700 include tax and tags? Try asking the people here for the dealer near you and salesperson they dealt with to get your deal.
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