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View Poll Results: Should Lexus offer a sporty variant of the 2013 ES?
Yes, ES 350 F SPORT 23 44.23%
Yes, ES 300h F SPORT 12 23.08%
Yes, ES 350 Touring/Sport Appearance 13 25.00%
Yes, ES 300h Touring/Sport Appearance 8 15.38%
No 20 38.46%
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Should Lexus offer an ES F SPORT model?

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Old 08-21-12, 02:22 PM   #16
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....It would be like the Camry SE model. A purported sports Toyota with nothing more than larger wheels and stick on ground effects.. Again NO!

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I think you are living the yesteryear. There are REAL ground effects on the 2012 Camry SE and it handles better than anything in its class.
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^^^^Well yes and no. The new SE does in fact have specific front and rear bumpers with the ground effects built in, the side ground effects are add-ons however. As far as the suspension goes, there is nothing new here, it's the same as all other Camrys with the exception of larger wheels. As far as handling, standard Camry stuff here.

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Lexus has to be careful with throwing an "F" package on vehicles and giving it suspension upgrades without power upgrades. With M, AMG, and S models, they put in more power along with suspension, so you're getting a real sport package. The only true F thus far has been the IS-F. The GS and LS F-sports are just making a nice vehicle more harsh, without giving it better line performance, so what is the point? Throw the 5.0 into the GS and an even more HP tuned 5.0 into the LS, and now we're talking about true F. Lexus has to make sure not to degrade the F to being nothing but a letter and more $$$ for no performance.
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There would be absolutely no market for such a car...
I beg to differ.
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^^^^Well yes and no. The new SE does in fact have specific front and rear bumpers with the ground effects built in, the side ground effects are add-ons however. As far as the suspension goes, there is nothing new here, it's the same as all other Camrys with the exception of larger wheels. As far as handling, standard Camry stuff here.

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Incorrect. Camry SE has specific suspension pieces. Knuckle and lower arm assembly are stronger and lighter. Also sport tuned shock absorbers and springs, strut tower, and trunk-mounted braces.
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I beg to differ.
So.. one person. High power, Front Wheel Drive, Manual Transmission cars are pretty much dead in the water. Acura realized the TL was getting overpowered, and so the 6 speed is on the SH-AWD only.
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I would love an F-ES.
Would be like a BMW 3 Series,
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I would love an F-ES.
Would be like a BMW 3 Series,
Sedan.
Not even close.
FWD and won't handle anywhere near the 3 Series even if the ES was RWD..
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Not even close.
FWD and won't handle anywhere near the 3 Series even if the ES was RWD..
I agree. That's why Lexus has the IS in RWD, AWD and IS-F as well as the GS RWD, AWD and F Sport.
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Would buy an F ES if it provided a little
more Sportiness despite the suspension.
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Perhaps Lexus may consider and ES F-sport too?

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/08/31/t.../#aol-comments

The only car I see an ES F-sport competing with is an Acura TL
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I would love an F-ES.
Would be like a BMW 3 Series,
Sedan.
the ES is too big to be a 3-series anything. Still... I'd take the ES over a 3 anyway.
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