2010 es
08-06-09, 05:00 PM
#61
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GOOD WORK! Not even Autoblog knows about it! I'd send them your links and they'll give you credit if they post it. I am sure they'd be interested. Also, I have always found it strange these cars seem to "debut" at actual dealerships. What are they doing there in the first place? It's not like the car is already for sale, is it? Lexus would formally anounce the car with photos before putting on a showroom floor (?).
As for the car itself... the wheels look tiny. I don't think the US will get those base (16") rims (they look like TSX rims btw). Overall, I like the rest. It's a good evolution of the current body. The only thing I am on the fence with is the Ronald McDonald grimmace smile with the front lower intake. It's too thin, too long, and is punctuated with the new foglight dimples. Kind of goofy, but I am sure I'll adjust to it quickly.
Thanks very much for posting these shots! I've been on the edge of my chair waiting and waiting for something to appear.
As for the car itself... the wheels look tiny. I don't think the US will get those base (16") rims (they look like TSX rims btw). Overall, I like the rest. It's a good evolution of the current body. The only thing I am on the fence with is the Ronald McDonald grimmace smile with the front lower intake. It's too thin, too long, and is punctuated with the new foglight dimples. Kind of goofy, but I am sure I'll adjust to it quickly.
Thanks very much for posting these shots! I've been on the edge of my chair waiting and waiting for something to appear.
08-06-09, 05:01 PM
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08-06-09, 05:50 PM
#63
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I've got a couple of e-mails out to my Lexus contacts to see if they can spill any additional specifics.
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08-07-09, 05:00 AM
#64
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Mister Two,
Do you mind if I were to post your pics on www.lexusownersclub.com ? I'm sure the ES folks who are not members here would appreciate them.
Do you mind if I were to post your pics on www.lexusownersclub.com ? I'm sure the ES folks who are not members here would appreciate them.
08-08-09, 12:16 PM
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08-08-09, 12:17 PM
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GOOD WORK! Not even Autoblog knows about it! I'd send them your links and they'll give you credit if they post it. I am sure they'd be interested. Also, I have always found it strange these cars seem to "debut" at actual dealerships. What are they doing there in the first place? It's not like the car is already for sale, is it? Lexus would formally anounce the car with photos before putting on a showroom floor (?).
As for the car itself... the wheels look tiny. I don't think the US will get those base (16") rims (they look like TSX rims btw). Overall, I like the rest. It's a good evolution of the current body. The only thing I am on the fence with is the Ronald McDonald grimmace smile with the front lower intake. It's too thin, too long, and is punctuated with the new foglight dimples. Kind of goofy, but I am sure I'll adjust to it quickly.
Thanks very much for posting these shots! I've been on the edge of my chair waiting and waiting for something to appear.
As for the car itself... the wheels look tiny. I don't think the US will get those base (16") rims (they look like TSX rims btw). Overall, I like the rest. It's a good evolution of the current body. The only thing I am on the fence with is the Ronald McDonald grimmace smile with the front lower intake. It's too thin, too long, and is punctuated with the new foglight dimples. Kind of goofy, but I am sure I'll adjust to it quickly.
Thanks very much for posting these shots! I've been on the edge of my chair waiting and waiting for something to appear.
08-08-09, 12:30 PM
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I agree that the lower front grille is horrible looking! All the other changes based on the pictures seem fine and don't change the pleasant exterior of the ES. However, a few of the Lexus ES competitors have raised the bar on exterior and interior design such as the 2010 Buick LaCrosse. Hopefully, the next version ES will have bolder, less conservative styling ques to set it further apart from it's other challengers in this segment.
08-08-09, 01:01 PM
#69
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I agree. If they have long term plans for it, the GS could use a styling and performance shot in the arm to keep it competitive in that segment. The ES, I think, will be as you described it.
08-08-09, 02:42 PM
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I am NOT feeling the foglights, but the rear lights and grill and the extra chrome is all good. cant believe the car leaked! good job!!
are there most dramatic creases on the hood where it meets the grill? I see changes in the turn signals of the headlights, but I cant tell if the headlights are sharper in shape...
are there most dramatic creases on the hood where it meets the grill? I see changes in the turn signals of the headlights, but I cant tell if the headlights are sharper in shape...
08-08-09, 05:24 PM
#71
Actually the IS series is considered the entry level model in the Lexus lineup. Furthermore the Enclave is Buick's "flagship" model, not the 2010 LaCrosse. And even though the LaCrosse is the first completely redesigned Buick for 2010 since GM filed for bankruptcy and re-organized, it is still a direct competitor now to the ES.
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08-08-09, 05:40 PM
#72
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Actually the IS series is considered the entry level car in the Lexus lineup. Furthermore the Enclave is Buick's "flagship" model, not the 2010 LaCrosse. And even though the LaCrosse is the first completely redesigned Buick for 2010 since GM filed for bankruptcy and re-organized, it is still a direct competitor now to the ES.
One needs to consider the mission of the model to begin with & the target market Lexus is trying to reach....it's not necessarily always it's 'starting' price point.
I was referring to passenger cars too btw.....not crossovers or SUV's.
Buick may consider the ES a direct competitor for the LaCrosse (Allure in Canada).....but I have yet to read a Lexus ad or hear a Lexus commercial ever mentioning Buick period. That is why Toyota has the Avalon.....and especially recently since GM's bankruptcy. Lexus has it's image to think about....GM is just simply trying not to sink into the Abyss.
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08-08-09, 06:55 PM
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That's debatable.....the IS did not arrive to the Lexus N/A lineup until 2001....so the ES took the entry level spot since 1990......it's hard to call the IS line the 'entry level' line considering the IS-F & some models in between (IE: AWD, now a convertible model etc)...no ES-F, nor an AWD model...yet....& I doubt ever a convertible.
One needs to consider the mission of the model to begin with & the target market Lexus is trying to reach....it's not necessarily always it's 'starting' price point.
I was referring to passenger cars too btw.....not crossovers or SUV's.
Buick may consider the ES a direct competitor for the LaCrosse (Allure in Canada).....but I have yet to read a Lexus ad or hear a Lexus commercial ever mentioning Buick period. That is why Toyota has the Avalon.....and especially recently since GM's bankruptcy. Lexus has it's image to think about....GM is just simply trying not to sink into the Abyss.
One needs to consider the mission of the model to begin with & the target market Lexus is trying to reach....it's not necessarily always it's 'starting' price point.
I was referring to passenger cars too btw.....not crossovers or SUV's.
Buick may consider the ES a direct competitor for the LaCrosse (Allure in Canada).....but I have yet to read a Lexus ad or hear a Lexus commercial ever mentioning Buick period. That is why Toyota has the Avalon.....and especially recently since GM's bankruptcy. Lexus has it's image to think about....GM is just simply trying not to sink into the Abyss.
08-08-09, 07:03 PM
#75
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It should have never been produced to begin with.
