Another Transmission goes to Heaven
12-27-07, 04:43 PM
#46
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Just looked up the codes;;;;;;
P0746 Pressure Control selenoid "a" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SL1) Monitor description
P0796 Pressure Control selenoid "c" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SL3) Monitor description
P2714 Pressure Control selenoid "D" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SLT) Monitor description
P0746 Pressure Control selenoid "a" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SL1) Monitor description
P0796 Pressure Control selenoid "c" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SL3) Monitor description
P2714 Pressure Control selenoid "D" Performance (shift selenoid Valve SLT) Monitor description
12-27-07, 05:50 PM
#47
Ok Gentlemen, got the ES back late this afternoon.....
First the details from the work order:
* Customer states (always cracks me up, so non-commital)
check engine and VSC lights are on
Result - Codes P0746,0796,2714 present in system
Trans is overreving. Internal Transmission failure
*Cust states transmission is over-revving and at low speeds slams into gear
Result - Internal Transmission failure
TC7006 U660e Shift Flare Concerns Recall TCM
1 30510-33530 Transaxle Assy,AUTO
4 00289-ATFWS World Standard Autom
TC7006A R & R Automatic Transmission
FC: 9a,99
Part # 89530-33041
Count: 1
Claim type: RG
Replaced Transmission as per TSB#TC005-07, REFL ASH TCM
The car was in pretty good physical condition when I got it back.... I went by my mechanic to put it up on the lift to check for any residual fluid... wanted it to be immaculate so if there is any type of leak, it could be spotted more easily. The car was fairly clean (about 85 to 90 %), but I sprayed around some degreaser to get it 100%.
Now the results.... the car had about 16 miles more on it when I got it back.
I drove it another 16-17 miles tonight and it "seems" to shift fine. Definitely smoother than before... did not really notice any flaring although the tranny was probably a little on the warm side. Will be interested to see its "cold" behavior. Didn't really get on it too hard as imagine it needs to physically break in a little bit, but the mild downshifts seemed pretty smooth.
I'll give you all an update as I rack up some more miles in the coming days.
Thanks for all your support, well wishes, and comments.
First the details from the work order:
* Customer states (always cracks me up, so non-commital)
check engine and VSC lights are on
Result - Codes P0746,0796,2714 present in system
Trans is overreving. Internal Transmission failure
*Cust states transmission is over-revving and at low speeds slams into gear
Result - Internal Transmission failure
TC7006 U660e Shift Flare Concerns Recall TCM
1 30510-33530 Transaxle Assy,AUTO
4 00289-ATFWS World Standard Autom
TC7006A R & R Automatic Transmission
FC: 9a,99
Part # 89530-33041
Count: 1
Claim type: RG
Replaced Transmission as per TSB#TC005-07, REFL ASH TCM
The car was in pretty good physical condition when I got it back.... I went by my mechanic to put it up on the lift to check for any residual fluid... wanted it to be immaculate so if there is any type of leak, it could be spotted more easily. The car was fairly clean (about 85 to 90 %), but I sprayed around some degreaser to get it 100%.
Now the results.... the car had about 16 miles more on it when I got it back.
I drove it another 16-17 miles tonight and it "seems" to shift fine. Definitely smoother than before... did not really notice any flaring although the tranny was probably a little on the warm side. Will be interested to see its "cold" behavior. Didn't really get on it too hard as imagine it needs to physically break in a little bit, but the mild downshifts seemed pretty smooth.
I'll give you all an update as I rack up some more miles in the coming days.
Thanks for all your support, well wishes, and comments.
Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
12-27-07, 10:09 PM
#48
Be careful about saying anything good about your ES on this board, you will be labeled a 'cheerleader' - glad to hear that your 1 in 10 chance appears to be working out, Good Luck!
12-28-07, 04:13 AM
#49
Lexus Champion
In my observations only cheerleaders are jealous of or potshot others viewing the others as having better hair or makeup or perkier pompoms
12-28-07, 06:14 AM
#50
Intermediate
Thread Starter
MD350,
I most definitely did ask him about the new or rebuild question.
He said it was a "new" housing, but the transmission is a "factory rebuild".
I most definitely did ask him about the new or rebuild question.
He said it was a "new" housing, but the transmission is a "factory rebuild".
12-28-07, 10:34 AM
#51
I don't think he'd share the same concern with a thread titled another transmission goes to heaven while he had been waiting for a viable fix.
In my observations only cheerleaders are jealous of or potshot others viewing the others as having better hair or makeup or perkier pompoms
In my observations only cheerleaders are jealous of or potshot others viewing the others as having better hair or makeup or perkier pompoms
GoooOOOOO LEXUS!!
12-30-07, 05:41 AM
#54
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Another trans update:
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
12-30-07, 05:55 AM
#55
Lexus Champion
Another trans update:
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
I'll visit you, but I think you were on to something with that horse comment in start of this thread.
You'd be going green, but I'd wait till you find one that is housebroken or litter box trained if possible because otherwise there would be one heck of a mess on the garage floor.
12-30-07, 06:49 AM
#56
Intermediate
Thread Starter
ES350Bob,
Please be so kind to refresh my memory as to what happened in your case. Did you have your tranny replaced too ?
Please be so kind to refresh my memory as to what happened in your case. Did you have your tranny replaced too ?
12-30-07, 08:30 AM
#57
Lexus Champion
No, was waiting for a fix and ended up trading instead when the.... top off the trans fluid.... attempts were going on. Felt then it was hopeless so traded, but both my cars had sneaky transmissions, behaved until about the 130 mile mark, more or less. I even cold start test drove my second one and no slipping, it waited to around 130 miles give or take. I think sooner or later they are all going to fail, my luck is not so bad as to get 2 built 3 months apart messed up, that and info on here indicating replacements don't hold up, no real solution.
Maybe you could push for a buyback.
I sincerely wish patience for you to deal with it and a good resolution.
12-30-07, 09:16 AM
#58
12-30-07, 12:43 PM
#59
Another trans update:
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
Got roughly 100 miles on the trans now and 2 "incidents" appeared:
1) First, had about a 10-15 second incident where the transmission was holding the gears a little on the longer side with extremely light throttle. I would have to say it was around 3rd gear or so. It seemingly didn't want to upshift. The trans might not have been totally hot, but it had been driven a few miles before this started. If it were "bone cold", I might have expected this.
I drove the car for several miles more and this issue did not resurface.
2) Strangely enough, when making a slower rolling right turn onto a sidestreet, when I'd press the accelerator even lightly the transmission would downshift on the rough side. The transmission was warm for sure. This did not happen from a dead stop.
I was able to duplicate this several times.
Other than above, the transmission seems to be working ok.
I'm not going to brink it to the dealer just yet only because of the possible dreaded "we can't duplicate it" response. Also, as I've only had the car back since Thurs 12/27 evening, they might also say it's still "learning".
I'm not feeling too good about this although don't know what they could do for the car anyway short of putting in another tranny. It's already got the latest reflash.
Promise to come visit me in the looney bin because that's where this is gonna put me !
You can also discuss your situation with the sales or general manager at your dealership. If the customer service is as good as some say on this forum, they should offer you some kind of deal to get out of your car and put you in another Lexus like a GS (as Twister got). I would not wait, the transmission is not learning. Throw the keys back in their face.
Good luck, keep us in the loop!
12-30-07, 01:36 PM
#60
Lexus Champion
Besides what would you gripe about if not about me.....
view me as black sheep of the family if you want but my not resting, others too, got results for everyone, for my effort the inclusion of gear shift 2 to 3 in one of the latest Transmission TSIB. Having you "snark" at me is a cakewalk by comparison to what I went through over that even though it did end up getting included.
You mentioned ruckus raising...check this out...and you'll think I'm the Mother Theresa of tolerance of an issue by comparison.
http://www.lexusoverride.com/