Kaius88

So richbutler do you consider picking the TP color as a "mistake"? I wouldnt exchange the whole car and incur such losses just for the color. I mean I could get it painted for less than $1000. My intention was to get a better package as well..... that just makes it more worthwhile IMHO.

CyclopStan

My bet is that his is a lease.

richbutler

Nope, I purchased it. My dealer is trading me out of my current car for a new car with no cost to me. I won't get into all the details... but I had some paint problems with the car caused by a third party. I have a good relationship with my dealer, and my dealer is absorbing this loss purely as a courtesy to me. No yelling, no demanding needed. In fact, I never asked for the buy back. This was definitely a nice, unexpected gesture on their part. So I'm taking this opportunity to get a different color. And my dealer has a customer for life. My friends and family are also amazed and will purchase from this dealer if/when they decide to buy a Lexus.

cocopops

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ic. well do u think u can let us know the dealer name... just for us to take note

Kaius88

Wait a minute....so the dealer let you do a trade because of some paint issue? At no cost? I mean even a Lemon buyback costs you in California because dealers are allowed to reduce price by depreciation amount prior to 18000 miles (or 18 months). So the dealer is willing to eat the depreciation and sales tax, which prolly total more than $7000? You shoulda refused the buyback just to stay consistent with your ideals and not be hypocritical. I mean afterall, he who points at someone with 1 finger has 3 fingers automatically pointing at himself. Is this why we are not in on all the "details"?

richbutler

Sour grapes? Sounds like it from your post. Just proves that if you treat people with respect, they will give you more than a fair deal. My point is if you go through life with the mentality that people "owe you", you won't get far. If you really want to point fingers, just look at your situation with your car and your personal life that you have posted on the board.

You can flame away...I don't really care, but I'm done with this board. You can't really respond to posters like Kaius88 who hits their wife and then on the same weekend goes back to the Lexus dealership and claims that "they" owe him due to getting ripped off because he changed his mind on the first car. Duh, I should have known... Is a person who hits their spouse hard enough for the spouse to go to the hospital and then blames the injured spouse is what some people would call an abuser? I don't know. Just too crazy for me.

twister

Oh, common!!! First of all, thats really hitting below the belt. And second, haven't we learned anything from that other "thread"? In words of your own fellow Californian, "Can we just all get along?"

Regarding the whole car swap, I also don't buy that. Something got screwed up really badly for them to buy car back for other than early-build-tranny-problem...

toneman

Obviously I don't know all the details behind richbutler's story, but based on what has been stated so far...why should he refuse the buyback for something that wasn't of his own doing, especially if the dealer had offered and/or is willing to eat the costs of the buyback to begin with? I mean, I reckon that even with having to eat the costs, the dealer could always recoup some of it back by going after this third party that was supposedly responsible for this paint issue to begin with.

And yeah...all the personal mudslinging and other stuff like that really needs to stop. If you agree w/ something, then say you do...if not, then say you don't; no need to add anything more to that by pulling the morality card or pointing out faults that have nothing to do with our vehicles.

Kaius88

For the benefit of this Forum, I will retract my last sling of mud. Sorry for the aggrevation. This guy was hitting below the belt. It's cool though. Cant control his opinions. I think my Bizzaro bro is somehow affecting me.

LexBob2

Is there a moderator out there someplace? This is really getting old. Not the intent of the forum AT ALL.

toneman

I can see this thread getting locked any moment now...