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Shall I dare ATTEMPT to fit 20" on my 1997 ES300?

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Old 07-11-03, 12:04 PM
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20s will rub, look out of plac, destroy your ride ,and will strain and possibly break your suspension. The car was not built for 45lbs wheels on each corner (the weight of a 1 piece 20" chrome Lexani).

Keep it classy dude.
Old 07-11-03, 09:41 PM
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Xenon, I hope this link will answer your questions. I know nothing bout offsets and aspect ratios and that stuff. I left that all to the tire guy. I just know what sizes I could go with and what tires I knew I would consider.

http://www.enkei.com/Luxury/lm1-5s.htm

I liked the Kapones too but the more intricate the wheel the harder it would be to clean.

http://www.enkei.com/Luxury/luxury.htm

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Old 07-11-03, 09:51 PM
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Wow, I had no idea Enkei made those wheels until you got them, Steve, and I didn't know that they came in diamond cut (my first choice of finish) until I clicked the link. But they don't appear to come in 17, and I'm already having enough problems with my brakes getting jarred by bumps with the 50 profile tires on my 17's. Also, on my 96, I didn't want to go wider than 7.5" too avoid rubbing (the current gen ES can accept much larger fitments without problems), which limited my choices (all of the good wheels seemed to be 17 x 8, which would have required 235 width tires, which would have rubbed).

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Old 07-12-03, 12:37 PM
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Dex and 1 sick lex thanks for your input 18" Niche F 16 it is. There $2300 + shipping so I might wait to next season.
Old 07-12-03, 02:34 PM
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I'm getting pretty close to choosing a wheel for my '95. It has come down to the Enkei Lm 1-5 and another brand of wheel. The Enkeis are looking better and better every time I look at them and compare them to my other choice.
Old 07-12-03, 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by steviej
Xenon, I hope this link will answer your questions. I know nothing bout offsets and aspect ratios and that stuff. I left that all to the tire guy. I just know what sizes I could go with and what tires I knew I would consider.

http://www.enkei.com/Luxury/lm1-5s.htm



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Thanks Steviej, that's perfect. I assume you went with 18x8 with +40mm offset. That's an ideal fit.

Squarehat, can you elaborate more on the problems you've been having with your 17's on 50 series tires?
Old 07-12-03, 08:19 PM
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A couple weeks after getting my new rims, I was on a narrow, two-lane road, when I saw a pothole ahead. I couldn't swerve due to oncoming traffic, so I jammed on my brakes, so I had slowed from about 40 to 5 by time I hit it. BANG! I pulled into a well lit parking lot, rims looked okay. Unfortunately, I started getting drastically reduced gas mileage, and acceleration seemed sluggish. I thought I might have had dirty injectors or a bad 02 sensor. I noticed I had a leaky CV boot in the front right, so I took it in. Turns out not only had the CV boot/halfshaft been damaged, but by braking while hitting the pothole, I bent my caliper.

Fast forward to this week. It's been raining hard all week, and I went through an unfamiliar area where there was an inch of standing water in the curb lane. BANG! I hit an underwater pothole hard, at first I thought I had been rear-ended. Now, there's a constant squeal coming from my front left brake. So, I'm worried that that caliper is now damaged.
Old 07-12-03, 08:22 PM
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Xenon, you got it right. 18x8, +40 offset,

The_Hitman, you got my vote....of course. Go with the LMs. Very easy to clean, very sharp lines, very tasteful.

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Old 07-13-03, 07:21 PM
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Good choice. When I finally finish this GS, I think SSRs or Racing Harts are going on the ES. SInce the widest wheel I want is a 7.7 and the size may be a 17 or 18, the prices are not that bad at all.
Old 07-13-03, 07:40 PM
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I have 18x8's with a 40mm offset on my 97, they fit good, but I did need a 3mm spacer for the rear.
Old 07-14-03, 08:53 AM
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Nix, I presume the spacer is needed because the wheels you ride are originally designed for a RWD car?

I have no spacers cause the Enkei LMs are engineered for FWD cars, or at least they are in the FWD section of the Enkei catalog.

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Originally posted by steviej
Nix, I presume the spacer is needed because the wheels you ride are originally designed for a RWD car?

I have no spacers cause the Enkei LMs are engineered for FWD cars, or at least they are in the FWD section of the Enkei catalog.

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Can anyone explain this whole RWD FWD rim thing to me. It makes no sense to me at all. What is the difference? The way I see it, a rim is a rim. clueless.
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Picture a cross section of your car and wheels from side to side right down through the wheels in the middle.

it has to do with the design of the rim and where the mounting surface of the wheel is. Front wheel drive car rims accomodate the extra width of the spindle, hub, CV joint, axle and brakes but have to keep the outside of the tires flush with the car. The mounting surface of the rim will usually be further to the outside of the rim fro center.

Rear wheel drive cars have more space to play with so the mounting surface of the rims are usually a little closer to the center of the wheel if not more to the inside of center.

To get a RWD designed rim to mount with the outside edge of the tire flush with the side of the car a spacer is used to extend the rims in an outward direction. If not the RWD rims will look like they are too far inside the wheel well.

Other than that, I attribute it to "an engineering thing"

I did see a diagram once on TireRacks website that explained this. Try there for further explanation.

steviej

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Old 07-14-03, 09:41 AM
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Thanks for clearing that up steviej, I was so confussed with this.
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Originally Posted by LexDiamond
I know we all seen chips car but im thinking the 97+ style will look better with 20" seeing 19"s have room left I would put 245/35/20 what do ya'll think I can get a killer deal on 20" Lexani!!!
I wouldn't, but it's your baby.


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