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05 ES330 with 10-30 in it

Old 10-01-14, 08:12 PM
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Default 05 ES330 with 10-30 in it

have had syn. 10-30 in as that is what I had to use last time changed oil. I plan to run it down to about 30 degrees, then change back to the lighter wt 5-30. Thoughts about this?
Old 10-01-14, 11:56 PM
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I don't think you're going to see any real difference.

If you are using syn., it's going to have cling and cold temp. viscosity that will make it unimportant whether it is 5w-30 or 10w-30. Dino/mineral 5w-30 will likely give you less cold start up protection than full syn. 10w-30.

You car is back-spec'd by Toyota to 0w-20. If you have no oil consumption issues, you could run that this winter and see how it does.
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i recently had oil change and added jsut 1 qt of quaker state full syn 0W20 and the rest with 5W30 Mobil1 oil..next oil change would be a 50/50 mix. am thinking of going to 0w20 or maybe just for the winter..will see..b
but so far no issues..and ya i did notice when pouring the 0W20 oil that it was soooo thin compare to 5w30
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Originally Posted by imherenow
i recently had oil change and added jsut 1 qt of quaker state full syn 0W20 and the rest with 5W30 Mobil1 oil..next oil change would be a 50/50 mix. am thinking of going to 0w20 or maybe just for the winter..will see..b but so far no issues..and ya i did notice when pouring the 0W20 oil that it was soooo thin compare to 5w30
The 1MZ was never designed to run on 0W20. You are at risk of causing serious engine damage, such as bearing failure, low oil pressure, and inadequate cooling, if you continue to add more 0W20.
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Originally Posted by MrBooby
The 1MZ was never designed to run on 0W20. You are at risk of causing serious engine damage, such as bearing failure, low oil pressure, and inadequate cooling, if you continue to add more 0W20.
It's not "designed" for it, but Toyota did back-spec the MZ series to run 5W-20 (official TSB). There is another chart floating around that claims that you can run 0W-20 as well.

I've been running 0W-20 in both my RX & ES for nearly 2 years during the winter now, absolutely zero problems. The Sienna still gets conventional 5W-30.
Old 10-04-14, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hypervish
It's not "designed" for it, but Toyota did back-spec the MZ series to run 5W-20 (official TSB). There is another chart floating around that claims that you can run 0W-20 as well.

I've been running 0W-20 in both my RX & ES for nearly 2 years during the winter now, absolutely zero problems. The Sienna still gets conventional 5W-30.
Yup i know there are a lot of ppl on this forum who area using 0w20 BUT i think only during the winter. I dont think i want to completely switch over to 0w20 ..but maybe a blend of 50/50. But its good to know that you have been doing it for 2 years with no problems.
btw whats your oil change service interval..
Old 10-04-14, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by imherenow
Yup i know there are a lot of ppl on this forum who area using 0w20 BUT i think only during the winter. I dont think i want to completely switch over to 0w20 ..but maybe a blend of 50/50. But its good to know that you have been doing it for 2 years with no problems.
btw whats your oil change service interval..
I stick to 5K OCI on the ES, and a 4k OCI on the RX. 3k OCI on the Sienna.
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I don't understand why anyone would experiment with 0-w20, when Lexus calls for 5-w30.

Especially when the posters say that they have tried it for a few years and no harm done. Nor was there any benefit. So why risk it.

It should be noted that 0-w20 is so thin that it does not coat any of the moving parts for a long time, such as cylinders, pistons, bearings, etc.. After an overnight rest much of that oil would have gone back to the oil an, while a 5-w30 oil would still cling to the mechanical parts, preventing a dry start.

To each his own I guess.
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Originally Posted by PFB
I don't understand why anyone would experiment with 0-w20, when Lexus calls for 5-w30.

Especially when the posters say that they have tried it for a few years and no harm done. Nor was there any benefit. So why risk it.

It should be noted that 0-w20 is so thin that it does not coat any of the moving parts for a long time, such as cylinders, pistons, bearings, etc.. After an overnight rest much of that oil would have gone back to the oil an, while a 5-w30 oil would still cling to the mechanical parts, preventing a dry start.

To each his own I guess.
LOL, please don't spread false information.
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I don't intend to get into a debate. I did say to each his own.
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Originally Posted by PFB
I don't intend to get into a debate. I did say to each his own.
"To each his own" would refer to whether one chooses to use the 20 weight or not. Which I agree, totally up to the owner.

But, saying a 20 weight causes more wear and doesn't protect/lubricate is absolutely absurd and misleading.
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Originally Posted by PFB
I don't understand why anyone would experiment with 0-w20, when Lexus calls for 5-w30.

Especially when the posters say that they have tried it for a few years and no harm done. Nor was there any benefit. So why risk it.
I feel the same way. Why change the oil viscosity when it doesn't provide any benefits?
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