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Old 01-08-15, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BDSL
But if you live/drive in a major city, it is not fine.
Other drivers will not let you merge into their lanes.
You will have a hard time changing lanes with no power steering and assisted braking...while the vehicle is rolling to a stop.
And if you are on a major highway, there is a chance you will not make it to the shoulder....
Aren't there ways of telling when I timing belt is about to go? I've heard that they're supposed to make a squealing sort of noise when the engine is started and still cold for a while before they break cause they stretch or something.

Still better safe than sorry, loosing power steering and assisted braking while on a busy multilane motorway would not be fun at all.
Old 01-08-15, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qwerty321
Aren't there ways of telling when I timing belt is about to go? I've heard that they're supposed to make a squealing sort of noise when the engine is started and still cold for a while before they break cause they stretch or something.
Not in my experience, they just snap and that's it. You might be thinking of the noise a accessory belt makes when it's loose.

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Still better safe than sorry, loosing power steering and assisted braking while on a busy multilane motorway would not be fun at all.
It's alot more manageable than people like to make out. That's by design though, engines fail everyday and people control their cars just fine when that happens.
Old 01-08-15, 11:21 PM
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Not in my experience, they just snap and that's it. You might be thinking of the noise a accessory belt makes when it's loose...
Yea, that must be it. My bad
Old 01-12-15, 08:29 AM
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Dear Tasmania, yes, the US manual recommends replacement at 90,000 miles. I am surprised by the difference in the recommended interval. 280 k kilometers calculates at 168,000 miles. The ES models are excellent cars if cared for. US Magazine Consumers Report rates them at the top.
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Typically overseas cars sold or made here are set up differently for 'Australian conditions', usually meaning things like firmer suspension, based on various assumptions about what our roads are like, and driving preferences, I suppose. Possibly the timing belt difference is due to some similar assumption about local differences, though it's hard to make much sense of it, especially when the 02-06 Camry with the same engine (except for VVT) specifies 150k km, which is just under 94k miles.

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[QUOTE=Qwerty321;8857430]I

The costliest quote I got was from the dealer, who asked for $930 US


In my case the dealer had it replaced free of charge. But since I wasn't going to buy it otherwise, I guess it was just a different style of haggling.

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Originally Posted by Qwerty321
I personally havn't done it knowingly. But I recently just bought a 1999 Windom (ES300) with the 1MZ-FE (VVTi version) and my cars clocked about 190k (km not miles) and there's no record of a cam belt change. In fact there's no sticker or anything either, so it's quite likely my car's never had a cam belt change. I'm getting mine replaced in about a week, but $433 is pretty decent. I got quoted $800 NZD, which is about $623 US to have mine done. The costliest quote I got was from the dealer, who asked for $930 US.

Actually, we're told here to change timing belts every 90,000 KM and you guys are told to change every 90,000 Miles... how does that work?



Though if you have the VVTi 1MZ-FE, it's an interference engine, so a timing belt snap would likely kill your engine, and probably your wallet too.
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I am in a quandary as to why the manual would specify 90,000 KM in certain countries, vs 90,000 Miles in the US. It appears to be an error to me. Perhaps someone in a KM country should bring it to the attention of a Lexus Dealer.

It seems 90,000 KM (54,000 miles) is too short an interval for a timing belt change.
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Originally Posted by coppens1
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I am in a quandary as to why the manual would specify 90,000 KM in certain countries, vs 90,000 Miles in the US. It appears to be an error to me. Perhaps someone in a KM country should bring it to the attention of a Lexus Dealer.

It seems 90,000 KM (54,000 miles) is too short an interval for a timing belt change.
They probably know about it. Easy money for them I guess...
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Originally Posted by coppens1
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I am in a quandary as to why the manual would specify 90,000 KM in certain countries, vs 90,000 Miles in the US. It appears to be an error to me. Perhaps someone in a KM country should bring it to the attention of a Lexus Dealer.

It seems 90,000 KM (54,000 miles) is too short an interval for a timing belt change.
Different country, different climate, different road condition, etc....
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Originally Posted by BDSL
Different country, different climate, different road condition, etc....
Frankly, I think the 90 K km vs 90K miles is an editing error. I don't think different countries or road conditions explains a 66% variance (90000/54000).
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Originally Posted by coppens1
Frankly, I think the 90 K km vs 90K miles is an editing error. I don't think different countries or road conditions explains a 66% variance (90000/54000).
I think you're right. It's difficult to edit a typo when you have already released thousands of copies. In addition, this vehicle came out in 1998, before the Internet. I would follow the guideline in miles.
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Originally Posted by MrBooby
I think you're right. It's difficult to edit a typo when you have already released thousands of copies. In addition, this vehicle came out in 1998, before the Internet. I would follow the guideline in miles.
I know some of the newer Toyotas here say to get the cambelt done every 150k Km, which should be roughly 90 miles right?
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Hi all, new to the forum here. Is there a time limit for the timing belt change? With my Hondas, the maintenance schedule says to change the timing belt at either 90k miles or 9 years. Does Lexus suggest something similar? I have a 98 ES300 with only 76k miles, so I'm good on the miles but it's 17 years old now.
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Originally Posted by phoenixnsx
Hi all, new to the forum here. Is there a time limit for the timing belt change? With my Hondas, the maintenance schedule says to change the timing belt at either 90k miles or 9 years. Does Lexus suggest something similar? I have a 98 ES300 with only 76k miles, so I'm good on the miles but it's 17 years old now.
some have said 5 yrs, others have said 10 yrs. for the life time of the belt. It's a non interferance engine so ... no biggie if it does break. But, the cam seals behind the sprockets might be leaking by now.
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