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Old 05-16-14, 12:54 PM
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Default Original Battery is 10 Years Old!

My 2004 ES330 still has the original battery after 61,000 miles. When I brought it in for service 2 years ago, they said that I should replace it because it couldn't "sustain a load" or something like that. When I brought it in last year they didn't say anything. When I brought it in earlier this year they again said I should replace it.

The funny thing is, it works fine. I've never replaced a car battery until it died.

I'm wondering if I should be proactive and replace it now or wait until it causes me a problem. Any thoughts?
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That battery is way past it's normal life span. It was time to replace it many years ago.
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Replace it, unless you like getting stranded at the most inconvenient time!
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You've gotten lucky. It may last a few more years or it may die tomorrow. You can watch them load test your battery and see what reading the meter gives, if you're that concerned about their integrity.
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I would get it load tested, also do a visual inspection. Is it leaking, bulging, cracking? I had batteries on my vehicles last 8+ years but in cold winter months they would not give enough cracking power, otherwise they still would start the car.
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Originally Posted by MrBooby
You've gotten lucky. It may last a few more years or it may die tomorrow. You can watch them load test your battery and see what reading the meter gives, if you're that concerned about their integrity.
What is a load test and what does it mean?'

It seems to me that it can't be all that definitive if my battery has lasted for 2 years after it failed a load test.
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Originally Posted by mitmaks
I had batteries on my vehicles last 8+ years but in cold winter months they would not give enough cracking power, otherwise they still would start the car.
It's lasted through 2 Cleveland winters since it failed a load test. including starting at about 15 degrees below zero this past winter.

Actually, I read somewhere that modern batteries are more likely to fail in heat of summer. The new electronic ignitions don't need as much cranking power as older cars did.
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
What is a load test and what does it mean?'

It seems to me that it can't be all that definitive if my battery has lasted for 2 years after it failed a load test.
Here is a good overview of how it works. The tool is only around $40 on Amazon, if you want to get one for yourself. Basically you're putting a certain electrical load on the battery for a few seconds, to see how the battery performs under load. This is important, because your battery works the hardest during cold starts of the engine.


Saying that your battery failed a load test is a very obscure statement, so it helps to have a certain measurement to go along with it. You might have been on the edge of "Weak", so they recommended that you replace it.
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Saying that your battery failed a load test is a very obscure statement, so it helps to have a certain measurement to go along with it. You might have been on the edge of "Weak", so they recommended that you replace it.
Interesting video. Thanks.

The service rep showed me the load test print out. It was not borderline. It was near the middle of the "no good" range.
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Originally Posted by DavidZ
Interesting video. Thanks.

The service rep showed me the load test print out. It was not borderline. It was near the middle of the "no good" range.
go get a new one and buy the freshest battery you can find. I get mine at Sam's Club or Farm and Fleet. motors may not run well with low voltage
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Whats there to be proactive about?

10 years is very old. Spend the 80$ and quit being cheap...
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A battery from Lexus costs me the same as a tank of gas, just replace it and not have to worry about it
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I wouldn't do any testing or anything - I would just replace it. It is just too old. This is just like delaying the purchase of new tires until you have gotten the maximum wear out of a set - not worth it when you have an untimely break down. And I'm not saying I've never kept a battery or tires too long - it becomes a challenge, "just how long can I keep going with this".

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My sister had an old mid 80's civic and the battery was like this one that kept running and running and running 15 years later.

Getting some work done on the car they found that the battery was leaking acid down the engine bay to the frame and had eaten so much of it away the car had to be totaled. Car was in perfect condition except for that.... completely undetectable until they had the car up on a lift.

Think of that every time I hear something like this!
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The logical thing to do is replace it..but part of me wants you to see how long it can go!

But yeah, just replace it..im sure its making your alternator work overtime. If that goes bad, its more costly than a battery.


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