removing air filter box for cone fiter 2000 es300

sagarx · 09-25-09, 04:26 PM

hey,
i am new to the group,everyone calls me saga. i recently got a 2000 es300 with 68k on her. my mom works @ a lexus dealer & took this car in on trade. i have all the service records. the previous & only owner brought the car in for every scheduled maintenance. the car was garage kept & everything including the paint is near mint.
so i would like to do some performance mods. i figured i would start by taking out the air filter box & add a injen cone. when looking @ filter box it seems to have a sensor attached to it. so if i removed the box what do i do with the sensor. i think it is a mass air sensor,not sure though. any help would be great. any other suggestions in getting some more hrsp. out of her would be greatly appreciated.
thank you, saga

zajac · 09-25-09, 11:54 PM

Welcome. It is a mass air flow sensor, you will need an adapter to make it work. Just as an FYI though, you will lose horsepower, not gain. For this reason, there is an intake sitting in a box in my garage.

GEORGE_JET · 09-26-09, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zajac

Welcome. It is a mass air flow sensor, you will need an adapter to make it work. Just as an FYI though, you will lose horsepower, not gain. For this reason, there is an intake sitting in a box in my garage.

I could not have said it better, on a stock engine, these things are the a total waste of money. Unfortunately there are not a whole lot of performance parts for these cars.

Pyroibw · 09-26-09, 12:15 PM

get a cheap intake off ebay if you really want one, but again, its just for look/sound, not gona gain anything.

01LEXPL · 09-26-09, 09:31 PM

Can't get an intake on the car man... Without some serious modification, and at that point still you have no guarantee it will work without issues.

Welcome to VVTI equipped motors.

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Originally Posted by Pyroibw

get a cheap intake off ebay if you really want one, but again, its just for look/sound, not gona gain anything.

Nah man. This guy is in the same boat as me...

See pics below just took them, the MAF is PART of the airbox...

I wanted an intake to get it to sound nicer at higher RPM's and to pretty much have a reusable filter... But have been using the regular ones for now.

sagarx · 09-27-09, 06:08 AM

weapon-r makes one. for the es. it has a place for the mass flow sensor to reconnect.
just a little more throaty sound would be cool,even if the car can't get out of it's way getting onto the highway.
anyone have any ideas besides getting a different car, to add some hrsp.?

05ES330 · 09-27-09, 07:45 AM

Does your car have dual throttle bodies like the picture above? or does your engine look like this http://www.clublexus.com/forums/es30...e-finally.html
I have that intake for sale, the MAF flow sensor is different on my car, its a lot smaller than the cut out on the intake, it was for a different year ES

01LEXPL · 09-27-09, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 05ES330

Does your car have dual throttle bodies like the picture above? or does your engine look like this http://www.clublexus.com/forums/es30...e-finally.html
I have that intake for sale, the MAF flow sensor is different on my car, its a lot smaller than the cut out on the intake, it was for a different year ES

VVTI motors = 2000-2001, so it won't work for him.

Nunyabiz · 09-28-09, 05:49 AM

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"I wanted an intake to get it to sound nicer at higher RPM's and to pretty much have a reusable filter... But have been using the regular ones for now."

Just get the K&N that fits your airbox, its what I have and it works fine.

01LEXPL · 09-28-09, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

Just get the K&N that fits your airbox, its what I have and it works fine.

Nope. Not gonna happen. Why?

Contrary to popular belief, they give no gains, get clogged up much faster, and a a ***** to maintain.

I was told that the dry filters are best, and at a few bucks/filter i am willing to pay, vs. 80$ USD for an overglorified K&N, and on top of that another 20$ for the cleaner.

I am going to 'mod the box' with an intake going into the box for more air to rush in.

Boostless · 09-28-09, 09:41 AM

Weapon-R does make a kit for the 2000-2001 Es300 with "twin throttle". I completely agree with everyone above that its a waste of money. I felt absolutely NO power gain on my ES and because of the fact that the car has a twin throttle, it barely makes any "intake growl" that most people desire. If you have your heart set on changing the stock setup, just go with whatever is cheapest. Below is a pic of the Weapon-R kit on my 01 Es300. Hope this helps.

Nunyabiz · 09-28-09, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 01LEXPL

Nope. Not gonna happen. Why?

Contrary to popular belief, they give no gains, get clogged up much faster, and a a ***** to maintain.

I was told that the dry filters are best, and at a few bucks/filter i am willing to pay, vs. 80$ USD for an overglorified K&N, and on top of that another 20$ for the cleaner.

I am going to 'mod the box' with an intake going into the box for more air to rush in.

To each his own but just for the record the K&N I purchased cost me $32 on sale 4 years ago.
I think now they are around $40 not $80.

The "Dry Filters" I think you must be referring to are the "AFE Pro Dry Filters" which cost the same as a K&N around $40 or so not a "few dollars", they are a good filter also but not really any better than a K&N.
I used to use 2 K&Ns on my old Baja Bug back in the 80s.
The Bug was basically just a sand rail with a few pieces of VW body & pan on it and the engine was completely exposed.
I would go to the desert and sand dunes, go into deep mud holes you name it, the K&N would be almost unrecognizable it would be so covered but when I would take them off the throat of the carbs were clean as a whistle and the K&N even caked with dirt was breathing nicely.

Getting dirty faster means they trap dust better.
They give just much of a gain as any other quality air filter and I just cleaned & re-oiled mine last week, took me all of 10 minutes tops. No problem to maintain at all.

You can buy the K&N filter charger kits for under $10 several places online and also at Pep Boys for under $10 which will last you about 7-10 years.
I bought mine at Pep boys for $8.99 4 years ago and still have 1/2 of it left.
You don't have to clean a K&N until it gets real dirty.

So get what ever floats your boat but no need to spread false BS about K&N in the process.

Iam sure the Dry Filters will work just fine.

01LEXPL · 09-28-09, 10:59 AM

^^

I am simply restating what i personally expereinced [had one on a 2003 JEtta] and it was garbage.

They may be cheap for you since you are in the US, the above {USD** was a mistake, i meant to put on CAD. Even on eBay for ME it is about 80$ USD when it is all said and done at my door. Same with the cleaning kit it is ~22$ at my local parts store.

I had the filter on the dub, and it was junk. I put it in and it got dirty fast. I went to clean it/etc, the cleaner doesn't even work, the oil did not even bead as it was supposed, it ALL ended up at the bottom of the airbox.

Again i am basing my personal point off a panel filter, perhaps the cones are better to clean, etc.

Furthermore i have talked with many automotive pros, that know their stuff and they tend to say the same, that it is useless in an OEM application and holds no benefit over a K&N, thus it is better to use a OEM filter or one of the dry ones.

Sorry man, because it worked for you, great, i am really happy for you.

What is it to you anyways? Why do you value my criticsm so much? Are you are rep for K&N ? LOL

sagarx · 09-28-09, 02:09 PM

my car has twin throttle bodies.. so does any one have any ideas to get some growl out of the car. also any ideas on how to get any more horse power out of it. do they make a mod for the ecm? anything for more power??

sagarx · 09-28-09, 02:12 PM

here is the box & twins