2nd Generation (92-96) ES300 Suspension Reference
03-14-07, 07:29 AM
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welp, I ended up getting the B&G Suspensions from PeformanceCenter.com. If I saw the Intrax b4 I may have gotten those since the back seems to be low already. But I'm sure .1" won't hurt too bad. I'll post pics whenever I get them on.
04-11-07, 01:57 PM
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Answering that question fairly would require quite a bit of side-by-side testing, which I don't believe has been done to-date. Here's a decent example of what would be required; in that example there was a nicely done comparison of rear sway bars.
The folks who've purchased the "$20 Ebay bars" will tell you theirs is just as good as the more expensive ones, although they've never directly tested/compared them.
The folks who've purchased the more expensive/name brand bars will tell you that you get what you pay for and that theirs is of higher quality and stiffness. Again, that remains to be proven.
At this point, the best answer is - it's a crap shoot. Roll the dice and buy what you have confidence in.
The folks who've purchased the "$20 Ebay bars" will tell you theirs is just as good as the more expensive ones, although they've never directly tested/compared them.
The folks who've purchased the more expensive/name brand bars will tell you that you get what you pay for and that theirs is of higher quality and stiffness. Again, that remains to be proven.
At this point, the best answer is - it's a crap shoot. Roll the dice and buy what you have confidence in.
Last edited by Slooooooow; 04-11-07 at 02:00 PM.
04-20-07, 06:47 PM
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coilovers to tokico+eibach
ok so ive gone the ksport route with full coilovers. for looks nothing can beat having full height adjustments. but in colorado in icey conditions the suspension even on its softest setting is still to stiff for winter conditions.
i have blown both rear fluid filled shocks because of potholes.. so i just bought a full set of tokico struts, eibach lowering springs, and also full strut mounts all the way around.
i'll let you know what i think of it. and if anyone wants the ksports make me an offer.
i just might give you the best deal. also for replacement shocks for the blown ksports they are $125 each(as of last sept.).
i have blown both rear fluid filled shocks because of potholes.. so i just bought a full set of tokico struts, eibach lowering springs, and also full strut mounts all the way around.
i'll let you know what i think of it. and if anyone wants the ksports make me an offer.
i just might give you the best deal. also for replacement shocks for the blown ksports they are $125 each(as of last sept.).
04-20-07, 07:19 PM
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That makes me feel less self-resentment for going ahead with the struts+springs purchase in lieu of the coilovers.
I do wish I hadn't just spent a fortune on wheels, tires and suspension, because I might just have made an offer on those Ksports, just to try them out.
I do wish I hadn't just spent a fortune on wheels, tires and suspension, because I might just have made an offer on those Ksports, just to try them out.
04-22-07, 10:04 AM
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2nd Gen Suspension Components/Applications:
B&G
46.1.003 - B+G Sport Springs - List Price $319.99
Average Customer Review For B&G Suspension 1.6-Inch Front Drop and 1.6-Inch Rear Drop Sport Springs
$190.92 ("Sale price" found at http://www.PerformanceCenter.com)
$209.00 (http://www.shox.com)
$260.10/each (http://www.andysautosport.com)
Eibach
8226.140 - Pro-Kit - Listed as 1" drop on the front and rear - $285.50_Each (http://www.andysautosport.com)
5.81290K - Eibach Camber Kits - Front Pro-Alignment (+/- 1-3/4) - $28.72
5.81270K - Eibach Camber Kits - Rear Pro-Alignment (+/- 1-3/4) - $28.72
H&R
54682-55_1063 - H&R OE Sport Spring (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - $230.30
54682-2_1065 - H&R Sport Spring (Toyota Camry 6CYL 1992-1996) - $230.30
Intrax
75.1.004 - Type: SLS Chassis: V10 Front: 1.6" Rear: 1.5" Lbs: 32 (for: Toyota Camry V6 Model Year: 92-96) - List Price: $309
K-Sport
Coilovers:
CTY02-KP - Ksport Kontrol Pro Coilover Kit (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - $1400 (http://www.ksportusa.com)
Spring rates - Front:10/559 Rear:5/280
Includes Front & Rear Pillow Ball Mount
KSP-LSTY02 - Ksport GT Lowering Springs (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - 1.8" Front & Rear - $180
KYB
GR-2 struts:
334170 - Right Hand front ~$85
235708 / 334133 - Right Hand rear ~$75 (*When 235708 stock is depleted use 334133)
334171 - Left Hand front ~$85
235709 / 334134 - Left Hand rear ~$75 (*When 235709 stock is depleted use 334134)
$289.40 - Set of 4 (http://www.shox.com)
Sprint Performance Suspension
SPS81290F - Sprint Camber Kits – Front - $25.52 (http://www.andysautosport.com)
SPS81270R - Sprint Camber Kits - Rear - $25.52
SPS8003 - Sprint Springs - Lowering Springs (Front: 1.8 inch/ Rear: 1.8 inch) - $199.75 (http://www.andysautosport.com)
Toyota
Strut mounts $160/pair
Dust boots $30/pair
Whiteline
BTR36 - Rear Heavy Duty Sway Bar - 18MM
$140.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$141.75 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
70393A - Whiteline Control Lowering Springs - Front Pair
$145.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$148.69 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
78600A - Whiteline Control Lowering Springs - Rear Pair
$145.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$148.69 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
KSB566 - Strut Tower Brace - Adjustable
$175.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$179.82 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
Suspension Upgrades & Performance Parts No-shows/Unknowns/Known Issues:
• Cusco
• HKS
• Hotchkis
• Ion Performance (pending)
• Megan Racing
• Tanabe - no application for 2nd gen ESs or compatible Camry (confirmed by Tanabe USA)
• Tein - no application for 2nd gen ESs or compatible Camry
• Tokico (non-sealed available)
• Toyota - Solara strut brace - fitment issues
Trailing Arm:
#L2005-141307 (same part # on sites surveyed)
Fits App: 1992 Lexus ES 300 V6/
Engine - Chassis: 3VZFE — VCV10
Description: Rear
Year: 7/1991-7/1993
$106.95 [free shipping on orders > $50] (http://replacement.***************)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.95 (http://replacement.***************)
$106.95 (http://www.*********.com)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.95 (http://www.*********.com)
$112.63 (http://www.**********.com)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.75 (http://www.**********.com)
Tired of seeing things like this?
This list is provided to alleviate some of the frustration that 2nd generation owners experience when attempting to locate parts to upgrade/update their suspension. The ES is the Lexus aftermarket stepchild anyway, and the 2nd generation parts are harder to find than the newer generation ESs. As you find things, please post up and I'll update the listing above.
Enjoy and good luck!
B&G
46.1.003 - B+G Sport Springs - List Price $319.99
Average Customer Review For B&G Suspension 1.6-Inch Front Drop and 1.6-Inch Rear Drop Sport Springs
$190.92 ("Sale price" found at http://www.PerformanceCenter.com)
$209.00 (http://www.shox.com)
$260.10/each (http://www.andysautosport.com)
Eibach
8226.140 - Pro-Kit - Listed as 1" drop on the front and rear - $285.50_Each (http://www.andysautosport.com)
5.81290K - Eibach Camber Kits - Front Pro-Alignment (+/- 1-3/4) - $28.72
5.81270K - Eibach Camber Kits - Rear Pro-Alignment (+/- 1-3/4) - $28.72
H&R
54682-55_1063 - H&R OE Sport Spring (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - $230.30
54682-2_1065 - H&R Sport Spring (Toyota Camry 6CYL 1992-1996) - $230.30
Intrax
75.1.004 - Type: SLS Chassis: V10 Front: 1.6" Rear: 1.5" Lbs: 32 (for: Toyota Camry V6 Model Year: 92-96) - List Price: $309
K-Sport
Coilovers:
CTY02-KP - Ksport Kontrol Pro Coilover Kit (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - $1400 (http://www.ksportusa.com)
Spring rates - Front:10/559 Rear:5/280
Includes Front & Rear Pillow Ball Mount
KSP-LSTY02 - Ksport GT Lowering Springs (Toyota Camry all 1992-1996) - 1.8" Front & Rear - $180
KYB
GR-2 struts:
334170 - Right Hand front ~$85
235708 / 334133 - Right Hand rear ~$75 (*When 235708 stock is depleted use 334133)
334171 - Left Hand front ~$85
235709 / 334134 - Left Hand rear ~$75 (*When 235709 stock is depleted use 334134)
$289.40 - Set of 4 (http://www.shox.com)
Sprint Performance Suspension
SPS81290F - Sprint Camber Kits – Front - $25.52 (http://www.andysautosport.com)
SPS81270R - Sprint Camber Kits - Rear - $25.52
SPS8003 - Sprint Springs - Lowering Springs (Front: 1.8 inch/ Rear: 1.8 inch) - $199.75 (http://www.andysautosport.com)
Toyota
Strut mounts $160/pair
Dust boots $30/pair
Whiteline
BTR36 - Rear Heavy Duty Sway Bar - 18MM
$140.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$141.75 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
70393A - Whiteline Control Lowering Springs - Front Pair
$145.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$148.69 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
78600A - Whiteline Control Lowering Springs - Rear Pair
$145.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$148.69 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
KSB566 - Strut Tower Brace - Adjustable
$175.00 (http://www.pdm-racing.com)
$179.82 (http://www.globalperformance.com)
Suspension Upgrades & Performance Parts No-shows/Unknowns/Known Issues:
• Cusco
• HKS
• Hotchkis
• Ion Performance (pending)
• Megan Racing
• Tanabe - no application for 2nd gen ESs or compatible Camry (confirmed by Tanabe USA)
• Tein - no application for 2nd gen ESs or compatible Camry
• Tokico (non-sealed available)
• Toyota - Solara strut brace - fitment issues
Trailing Arm:
#L2005-141307 (same part # on sites surveyed)
Fits App: 1992 Lexus ES 300 V6/
Engine - Chassis: 3VZFE — VCV10
Description: Rear
Year: 7/1991-7/1993
$106.95 [free shipping on orders > $50] (http://replacement.***************)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.95 (http://replacement.***************)
$106.95 (http://www.*********.com)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.95 (http://www.*********.com)
$112.63 (http://www.**********.com)
Trailing Arm Bushing: L2006-177700 - $42.75 (http://www.**********.com)
Tired of seeing things like this?
This list is provided to alleviate some of the frustration that 2nd generation owners experience when attempting to locate parts to upgrade/update their suspension. The ES is the Lexus aftermarket stepchild anyway, and the 2nd generation parts are harder to find than the newer generation ESs. As you find things, please post up and I'll update the listing above.
Enjoy and good luck!
05-02-07, 01:04 PM
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So I decided to go with a B&G springs a month ago. It's been that long and still no springs. Every week they keep telling me a new ship date and again a new ship date. Anyone know where I can at least get my springs within 2 weeks without having to pay a ridiculous amount for shipping?
05-02-07, 01:39 PM
#29
I've not had any better luck with my Whiteline springs (via the RaptorRacing group buy over on ToyotaNation.com). Our generation is dated enough that few places keep parts on-hand. I know my STB and RSB were on-hand, but the springs had to be shipped over from Whiteline in Australia. Order placed March 9. Coming up on two months here so I completely empathize...
Options for me:
To anyone reading this who has, or had, a 2nd gen ES with suspension mods: what did you get, where did you go to get it and how long was your wait?
Options for me:
- Continue waiting
- Cancel springs order and receive only the in-stock items: Whiteline RSB and STB
- Determine which Whiteline competitor springs offer as much drop as the Whitelines (drop 1.5" f&r)
- I see from our list above that only the "Sprint" springs (1.8" F&R) and the Intrax (1.6 F & 1.5 R) offer as much drop. I'm a bit concerned about the number of posts complaining about the Intrax springs sagging.
To anyone reading this who has, or had, a 2nd gen ES with suspension mods: what did you get, where did you go to get it and how long was your wait?
Last edited by Slooooooow; 05-02-07 at 01:45 PM.