Lexus mechanic takes my car to pick up lunch....
03-22-17, 02:20 PM
#46
I have friends that work @ a high performance shop on LI when ever I visit 9x's outta 10 when ever I walk over to have a conversation about a car there working on from 1000 hp street cars to your weekend cruiser it's almost always the same "what this piece of *****"...
03-22-17, 02:30 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by azipod
The law is arguable. Like how others said, it's just a matter if you want to take on the risk/exposure to defend yourself if you were to get hit in a lawsuit.
If you had a dash cam that recorded voice/video of people inside your car, you can potentially argue that their conversation was not "confidential communication" and that there was no reason to expect privacy. Or, you argue that the camera only captured video and the purpose is to record movement of the vehicle as oppose to communication inside the car.
There is no legal conclusion anyone can make. It is all going to be factually driven and dependent on what law will apply.
Whether anyone wants to take the risk to get sued is up to them. I'm sure you can always run a campaign, launch public awareness, gather sympathy of the public and see if the dealership gives in (if they decide to sue you).
If you had a dash cam that recorded voice/video of people inside your car, you can potentially argue that their conversation was not "confidential communication" and that there was no reason to expect privacy. Or, you argue that the camera only captured video and the purpose is to record movement of the vehicle as oppose to communication inside the car.
There is no legal conclusion anyone can make. It is all going to be factually driven and dependent on what law will apply.
Whether anyone wants to take the risk to get sued is up to them. I'm sure you can always run a campaign, launch public awareness, gather sympathy of the public and see if the dealership gives in (if they decide to sue you).
Back to the OP's situation. The locker room talk doesn't bother me at all, as others have said we all talk about things when we think we are in private differently than when we're in the presence of our customers. In my office we routinely refer to people homes as "what's the price on that dump you have on Main St?", etc.
What would bother me is them driving my car to lunch, I wouldn't care for that either. Test drive should be a quick around the block.
03-22-17, 04:13 PM
#48
The law is arguable. Like how others said, it's just a matter if you want to take on the risk/exposure to defend yourself if you were to get hit in a lawsuit.
If you had a dash cam that recorded voice/video of people inside your car, you can potentially argue that their conversation was not "confidential communication" and that there was no reason to expect privacy. Or, you argue that the camera only captured video and the purpose is to record movement of the vehicle as oppose to communication inside the car.
There is no legal conclusion anyone can make. It is all going to be factually driven and dependent on what law will apply.
Whether anyone wants to take the risk to get sued is up to them. I'm sure you can always run a campaign, launch public awareness, gather sympathy of the public and see if the dealership gives in (if they decide to sue you).
If you had a dash cam that recorded voice/video of people inside your car, you can potentially argue that their conversation was not "confidential communication" and that there was no reason to expect privacy. Or, you argue that the camera only captured video and the purpose is to record movement of the vehicle as oppose to communication inside the car.
There is no legal conclusion anyone can make. It is all going to be factually driven and dependent on what law will apply.
Whether anyone wants to take the risk to get sued is up to them. I'm sure you can always run a campaign, launch public awareness, gather sympathy of the public and see if the dealership gives in (if they decide to sue you).
In any case, I live in Canada and we are not so "sue happy" as in the USA. If you start a frivilous case here and lose, you generally get slammed with your court costs (naturally) and those of the person you were suing. Cut's down on many nonsense suits. The law of course on most matters differs as well.
03-22-17, 04:21 PM
#49
Lexus Fanatic
Thats what we call "tort reform", not likely to happen here LOL
03-22-17, 11:47 PM
#50
Instructor
i couldn't agree with this more. There is no reason to take your car to a dealer, unless the service is free. A reputable and competent independent shop will do a much better job.
dealerships work in volumes. Do you really think they care about your car? I never understood why people choose to pay out the nose for what they think is better service at the dealer! What a waste of money!
dealerships work in volumes. Do you really think they care about your car? I never understood why people choose to pay out the nose for what they think is better service at the dealer! What a waste of money!
Poppa
03-23-17, 02:27 PM
#51
. Now having said that I will continue to pay the dealer for service on my ES until the warranty expires next January. Yes I know that I can take it to other independent shops and the warranty will still be in place, but I am just making sure there is no way Lexus can claim my service history is an issue if I have a warranty issue... I also have a 2010 Toyota 4 Runner. As soon as it's warranty expired I started taking it to a Gateway Tire Shop.. Yes, it is a tire shop but they also do tune ups, front end allignments, oil changes etc. Seems like I get a little better service ( manager is a personal friend ) and I know the price is better. Starting next January, my ES will also be going to that same shop...
Ans as for independents, I have had some pretty shoddy work done on vehicles over the years and independents were usually involved. Sometimes they were completely incompetent, other times deliberately fraudulent (using used parts and invoicing them as new).
I have been using the same Toyota dealership for many years. Price is fair (in the scheme of things) and they have never done a shoddy job. Wish I could say the same about some other places . Local mechanics seem to be a vanishing breed in my part of the world.
03-23-17, 03:22 PM
#52
Lexus Fanatic
Obviously all independent mechanics aren't created equal, you have to invest some effort in finding a really good one. Mine is great and there are numerous other ones around here that are also great. Get referrals, look at Yelp reviews, etc.
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