Battery died again and not even 3 years
#1
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Battery died again and not even 3 years
I purchased a new 2013 ES 350 and the battery has died twice this week. I drive 60 miles a day on the highway, so it gets plenty of charging. I am still under the 4 year and 50k mile basis warranty.
Dealer said the battery is only covered if I BUY a battery from them. Otherwise, the warranty is only 1 year for a new car purchase. Is this correct? If not, can someone please provide the proper documentation.
So if this is true, I'm gonna go to Autozone or something and get a high power battery. This car isn't even 3 years old and I do all highway driving -what a junk battery.
Dealer said the battery is only covered if I BUY a battery from them. Otherwise, the warranty is only 1 year for a new car purchase. Is this correct? If not, can someone please provide the proper documentation.
So if this is true, I'm gonna go to Autozone or something and get a high power battery. This car isn't even 3 years old and I do all highway driving -what a junk battery.
#2
Lead Lap
While it is not the norm to have battery problems with the ES, there have been a number of threads here started by people who have had battery drain issues, including another one stated by you.
Here are a few of them.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ain-issue.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ead-again.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ay-or-two.html
In most cases, the source of the issue ultimately was found to be something other than a bad battery. In at least one case, it turned out to be one of the seat adjustment switches that was stuck and that caused a constant drain on the battery. In at least another case, the source turned out to be a faulty gateway ECU that needed to be replaced.
While it is possible that your 3 year old battery could be failing, I would start by checking other things that could be causing a constant battery drain.
Here are a few of them.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ain-issue.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ead-again.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...ay-or-two.html
In most cases, the source of the issue ultimately was found to be something other than a bad battery. In at least one case, it turned out to be one of the seat adjustment switches that was stuck and that caused a constant drain on the battery. In at least another case, the source turned out to be a faulty gateway ECU that needed to be replaced.
While it is possible that your 3 year old battery could be failing, I would start by checking other things that could be causing a constant battery drain.
#3
I purchased a new 2013 ES 350 and the battery has died twice this week. I drive 60 miles a day on the highway, so it gets plenty of charging. I am still under the 4 year and 50k mile basis warranty.
Dealer said the battery is only covered if I BUY a battery from them. Otherwise, the warranty is only 1 year for a new car purchase. Is this correct? If not, can someone please provide the proper documentation.
So if this is true, I'm gonna go to Autozone or something and get a high power battery. This car isn't even 3 years old and I do all highway driving -what a junk battery.
Dealer said the battery is only covered if I BUY a battery from them. Otherwise, the warranty is only 1 year for a new car purchase. Is this correct? If not, can someone please provide the proper documentation.
So if this is true, I'm gonna go to Autozone or something and get a high power battery. This car isn't even 3 years old and I do all highway driving -what a junk battery.
#4
Lead Lap
I thought that the battery was covered for 4 years as Jollick stated. Dealer might be blowing smoke at you. The (original) battery in my Avalon that I traded for my 350 was 6 and still strong.
Last edited by bc6152; 07-15-16 at 09:55 AM.
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#7
I would just bring it back and get a new (free one). Even if it lasts 3 more years (and I think personally it should last a lot longer), OP will not be out of pocket and can always buy a new battery 3 years from now from vendor of his choice.
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#8
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UPDATE - I called the Lexus dealership again. thanks for the suggestions.
After I told them I read that other Lexus owners had their battery replaced under the 4 year/50k warranty, they said "Yes, the battery is covered." Well, why couldn't you say that the first time I called? Their reply was, "Umm, I'm not sure who you spoke with that said that."
Dealership tested out the electrical system, found nothing. Battery failed load test and they replaced it. On the battery is listed at only 575 CCA, but 130 reserve capacity, so that's good I guess. Says 84 month warranty on it.
After I told them I read that other Lexus owners had their battery replaced under the 4 year/50k warranty, they said "Yes, the battery is covered." Well, why couldn't you say that the first time I called? Their reply was, "Umm, I'm not sure who you spoke with that said that."
Dealership tested out the electrical system, found nothing. Battery failed load test and they replaced it. On the battery is listed at only 575 CCA, but 130 reserve capacity, so that's good I guess. Says 84 month warranty on it.
#9
Lead Lap
UPDATE - I called the Lexus dealership again. thanks for the suggestions.
After I told them I read that other Lexus owners had their battery replaced under the 4 year/50k warranty, they said "Yes, the battery is covered." Well, why couldn't you say that the first time I called? Their reply was, "Umm, I'm not sure who you spoke with that said that."
Dealership tested out the electrical system, found nothing. Battery failed load test and they replaced it. On the battery is listed at only 575 CCA, but 130 reserve capacity, so that's good I guess. Says 84 month warranty on it.
After I told them I read that other Lexus owners had their battery replaced under the 4 year/50k warranty, they said "Yes, the battery is covered." Well, why couldn't you say that the first time I called? Their reply was, "Umm, I'm not sure who you spoke with that said that."
Dealership tested out the electrical system, found nothing. Battery failed load test and they replaced it. On the battery is listed at only 575 CCA, but 130 reserve capacity, so that's good I guess. Says 84 month warranty on it.
Month 1-24 from in-service date 100% covered. Month 25-48 50% coverage of MSRP of the battery.
#10
Let me guess...and MSRP is roughly double the price batteries normally sell for?
#12
I think a bigger concern is why the battery died so soon. Putting a new one may be a temp fix if you have a faulty component in the charing system.
Check battery cable and alternator wiring for any loose bolts and/or corroded connections. (Before fixing anything loose or corrosion, disconnect the battery.)
Then, with battery fully charged, check voltage output at idle (warm engine). Voltage should be 13.5 to 14.5 volts. Our ES350 with a new alternator and battery purrs at 14.1 volts (my Tacoma at 13.6 on OEM alternator). Then do a load test: with car idling, turn on fan on high (don't turn on the AC); high beams, and wipers on fast. Voltage drop from idle should be less then a volt, ideally, half a volt. If voltage output is at 13.5 or a little less, alternator is still good if it passes load test, but low voltage indicates replacing alternator is a good preventive measure.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/charging_checks.htm
Check battery cable and alternator wiring for any loose bolts and/or corroded connections. (Before fixing anything loose or corrosion, disconnect the battery.)
Then, with battery fully charged, check voltage output at idle (warm engine). Voltage should be 13.5 to 14.5 volts. Our ES350 with a new alternator and battery purrs at 14.1 volts (my Tacoma at 13.6 on OEM alternator). Then do a load test: with car idling, turn on fan on high (don't turn on the AC); high beams, and wipers on fast. Voltage drop from idle should be less then a volt, ideally, half a volt. If voltage output is at 13.5 or a little less, alternator is still good if it passes load test, but low voltage indicates replacing alternator is a good preventive measure.
http://www.aa1car.com/library/charging_checks.htm
#14
Ive had my Toyota(at the time) dealer in AZ, replace mine..Got stranded less than a block from them on a busy street. I was headed there due to the car not starting after I came out of a restaurant after lunch. I ran down to svc dept. they had 2 guys with a large jumper come. jumped it.. and one drove it to dealer, as it pulled in the service bay it dies again.. got a new battery and the warranty was already expired.. They said it still shouldnt do that. Plus they performed a little PR work by doing so.....
#15
Got one of the Autocraft batteries from Advance Auto Parts last week.
Seems to work fine and fits ok, but since the terminals are reversed on the 24F, have to turn the battery around which puts the terminals more towards the outside of the vehicle than the OEM battery. The cables had to be moved a little to reach the posts, but not a big deal at all.
I closed up the vent towards the front of the car with some silicone. Got an elbow with a 3/8" barb on each end at the neighborhood Ace Hardware. Scraped off the plastic on one end to get it to fit the opening and sealed it up with some silicone. Should be fine.
Seems to work fine and fits ok, but since the terminals are reversed on the 24F, have to turn the battery around which puts the terminals more towards the outside of the vehicle than the OEM battery. The cables had to be moved a little to reach the posts, but not a big deal at all.
I closed up the vent towards the front of the car with some silicone. Got an elbow with a 3/8" barb on each end at the neighborhood Ace Hardware. Scraped off the plastic on one end to get it to fit the opening and sealed it up with some silicone. Should be fine.