Originally Posted by SW15LS

I've actually never said anything about US work ethic or made any pro US labor statements whatsoever. As I said before, I am not a "buy US made" sort of person. I probably own nothing right now that was built in or made in the US. Well, very little...and whatever it might be I have no idea.

This is actually something I've done a lot of research into, I spend a lot of time looking at quality ratings and such, as somebody who's been an auto enthusiast for a long time.

What "proof" would you like me to send? You're the one making statements like the following:



I would ask you where the basis for that statement came from. What information have you seen that has shown that the first years of these Toyota/Honda plants in the US were problematic? What issues were there specifically?

You're just speaking anecdotally also is my point. You make fun of my "experience", but have you specifically owned US and Japanese made Toyotas? How many Lexus products have you owned and from how many different Lexus plants? Whether you want to admit it or not that experience has value.

The question was whether each of us would purchase a US built ES, my reply clearly is yes. I wouldn't specifically choose an ES based on where it was built, I'd be equally happy with a US built car or a Japan built car. I've never seen any evidence or data trend or group of complaints that leads me to believe that Toyota has had an issue with build quality on vehicles built here vs those built in Japan, plenty of people have posted strong statements otherwise but when pressed as to what basis by which they've come to those conclusions...we get nothing but insults. People can make up their own minds, I'm out.