2015 Lexus ES350 or 2016 Honda Accord Touring
#16
Lexus Test Driver
I am talking from personal experience, my brother owns a 2013 accord ex-l (pretty much identical too a 2016) and I own a 2016 es350 fully loaded. And I can tell you there is a worlds difference in both cars in terms of everything. The accord is rattletrap while the es has non what so ever. Also the es has soft touch everywhere, the accord has very little and is much smaller as well. As they say you get what you pay for!
#17
Driver School Candidate
I shopped both, and went with a 2014 cpo.
There is a lot of overlap between the two in the areas that count for me:
1: great v6 powertrain. i like the honda cylinder deactivation
2: great execution of a tan interior
3: tech
4: inclusion of std subwoofer
5: size/ proportions
6: lighting. Missed out on the auto high beam with es i got tho.
Go to car complaints.com and you will see a huge amount of complaints about hard seats on the accord.
I also felt honda just wouldnt deal and it seemed harder to find a touring than an es350.
For those two reasons i walked away from the honda early on.
There is a lot of overlap between the two in the areas that count for me:
1: great v6 powertrain. i like the honda cylinder deactivation
2: great execution of a tan interior
3: tech
4: inclusion of std subwoofer
5: size/ proportions
6: lighting. Missed out on the auto high beam with es i got tho.
Go to car complaints.com and you will see a huge amount of complaints about hard seats on the accord.
I also felt honda just wouldnt deal and it seemed harder to find a touring than an es350.
For those two reasons i walked away from the honda early on.
#18
Driver School Candidate
My previous car was a 2014 accord touring. I loved the car but as far as ride and fit and finish the Lexus has it beat hands down. I did find the accord perfect for short trips but I found considerable road noise and alot of plastic for the interior. Go with the es you will not be disappointed.
#19
Pole Position
Hello Forum Members. Anyone familiar with a 2016 Honda Accord Touring Sedan? Looking to make a vehicle purchase between a 2015 pre-owned Lexus ES350 w/nav, or a new 2016 Honda Accord Touring Sedan. This is the top-of-the-line Accord. The ES350 is about $2,500 to $3,000 more than the Accord. Like both much. The ES350 is more luxurious, and the Accord is more of a sport sedan. Thank you for any input!
#20
Not always the case. Tons of the 8th generation accords have problems like redonculous oil consumption and the associated problems that come with it. VTC actuator problems, timing chains stretching, etc. Honda definitely isn't as bulletproof as most people would think. But I've never had any navigation go out when the weather was hot on any of the lexus vehicles I've owned.
#21
Lead Lap
I agree that the Honda Accord is bulletproof and have not heard or read of any ongoing issues. It has made one of the "10 Best Cars" in Car and Driver magazine for over 20 years. I own a 2014 Accord and also a 2013 ES. One car is luxurious and smooth riding, the other an economy car - a very good one - designed for the masses. IMO there is no comparison.
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by bc6152
I agree that the Honda Accord is bulletproof and have not heard or read of any ongoing issues. It has made one of the "10 Best Cars" in Car and Driver magazine for over 20 years. I own a 2014 Accord and also a 2013 ES. One car is luxurious and smooth riding, the other an economy car - a very good one - designed for the masses. IMO there is no comparison.
#24
I also sold a brand new 2015 Accord EX-L that I had owned for less than 6 months and bought an end of the model year 2014 ES 350 Ultra Luxury and have never regretted the decision. Liked the 2014 so much that I ended up leasing another 2016 ES 350 UL. My wife and I couldn't be happier with these 2 cars.
Last edited by cstone3636; 07-02-16 at 04:58 AM.
#27
ES 350 Ultra Luxury package. I edited the post reference same. The Honda Accord serves a purpose and gets great gas mileage but does not ride nearly as smooth or quietly as the ES 350. My main reason for getting rid of it at the time was the small amount of leg room in the accord. I'm only 5'11 but I felt really cramped in the Accord and moving to the ES solved that issue.
#28
Lexus Champion
The Accord and ES350 are similar and no doubt cross shopped by a lot of drivers but there are a lot of subtle differences.
Car and Driver ranks the Accord #3 in its segment behind the Maxda6 and new Malibu. In its segment they rank the ES #12, with the A6 and CTS and Volvo S90 at the top (all more expensive cars).
Car and Driver ranks the Accord #3 in its segment behind the Maxda6 and new Malibu. In its segment they rank the ES #12, with the A6 and CTS and Volvo S90 at the top (all more expensive cars).
#29
Lexus Test Driver
Car and Driver didn't give a good review to the ES because they expected a more dynamic drive but that's totally missing the point. It's a quiet, smooth and huge FWD sedan, what more do you want?
I guess you could get Accord-like handling on the ES if it used adaptive suspension but that would put it into GS territory. After driving the ES300h for two years, I wish the ride was softer, like halfway between the old floaty ride and the harder ride on the hybrid.
I guess you could get Accord-like handling on the ES if it used adaptive suspension but that would put it into GS territory. After driving the ES300h for two years, I wish the ride was softer, like halfway between the old floaty ride and the harder ride on the hybrid.
#30
Pole Position
Opinions of a car's ride is so subjective. Frankly, I think they got it just right. We have the 300h with 17" wheels and Bridgestone tires. I think the ride seems reasonably soft and compliant without being floaty. It doesn't drive like a sports car but rather a comfortable front wheel drive sedan. It handles just fine for the speeds and road conditions I most often find myself on. At risk of sounding like Goldilocks, for my needs and expectations it is just right.
A car can't be all things to all people, all of whom have different needs and different expectations. That is why there are so many different vehicles and options available. I know manufacturers have tried different techniques to alter the geometry of the suspension for different driving conditions, but it seems like those systems could be very complicated and expensive to maintain (as a previous Lincoln my mother once drove demonstrated). In my humble opinion, given the type of car this is, I think the designers struck a nice balance.
A car can't be all things to all people, all of whom have different needs and different expectations. That is why there are so many different vehicles and options available. I know manufacturers have tried different techniques to alter the geometry of the suspension for different driving conditions, but it seems like those systems could be very complicated and expensive to maintain (as a previous Lincoln my mother once drove demonstrated). In my humble opinion, given the type of car this is, I think the designers struck a nice balance.
Last edited by TechNut; 07-04-16 at 12:52 PM.