caseycat89

Hey there,

I'm looking for suggestions on what all season tires to put on our '14 ES350. The tires that came with the car (I think they are Duelers, something not high quality) squeal insanely when we take curves at 40 or 30 MPH. We live in the mountains so the main highway up here has many curves and banks and the tires just don't like it. We'd love any recs for a good all season high quality tire.

bc6152

There was a recent thread regarding replacement tires for the ES 350. Many were happy with the Pirelli P7 Plus, not to be confused with the Pirelli P7 Cinturato.
I plan to buy them when my current tires require replacement. You can get more info here www.tirerack.com including price and specifications. They are relatively inexpensive compared to Michelins. $137.20 each for 215/55R17/94V. They are all season tires.

SW17LS

The tires you're talking about are the Pirelli Cinturato P7 Plus. The key is the plus..

MrlexEd88

Sounds like you need a summer performance tires ... back when I had Bridgestone they would squeal and I could feel the car losing grip. I replaced them with cheap falken high performance all season and still same problem. On my summer wheels I had cheap sumitomo HTR III max summer tires and the grip is an amazing difference that you could feel both dry and wet. The ES would feel glue to the road even above triple digits speed and would be able to take sharp off ramp at normal speed even on wet conditions... All tire were the same size 225/45r18

bc6152

OK, thanks for the clarification. Pirelli Cinturato P7 Plus. Tire Rack lists them as
Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season plus. Very confusing...

sandy14

I put the Pirellis on my 15 ES 350 and I've never regretted doing so. They give a quieter, smoother ride and look nice too. Got mine at Discount Tire.

pgiinc

its simple the best Tire for the car is a Michelin Primacy MXV4. I would have nothing else

SW17LS

Those are the ones. The name is so long people truncate it which is the issue.

They're discontinued. I've had multiple sets of them over different cars, and the Pirellis are a very good replacement. Very similar.

80es300

Opinion on New Michelin Premier A/S, which were supposed to be replacement for Michelin Primacy MXV4? Are the Pirelli ones better?

SW17LS

I can't compare the two since I haven't had the Premiers. The reviews in the Pirellis are a little better, and mine are great, that's all I can say.

pgiinc

I personally would buy nothing but Michelin
I think there are the softest and quietest riding tire made
tire rack has the Primacy MXV4 Grand Touring All-Season 174.00

Philip
2016 ES300h
2015 NX300h

lesz

The biggest positive for the Premier A/S is that, as the tire wears, braking performance is supposed to be maintained better than on other tires, including the Primacy MXV4 as they wear. Also, the wear rating for the Premier is somewhat better than it is for the MXV4. On the other hand, the MXV4 has a better low rolling resistance rating than the MXV4, and that should translate into marginally better fuel economy. Also, anecdotal reports from some users indicate that the Premier tires might not be quite as quiet as the MXV4 tires, but, again, those are only anecdotal reports. And the Premier tires are generally selling for prices lower than those for the MXV4.

I've had a couple of sets of the MXV4 tires, and they do provide good ride quality with minimal road noise, but my biggest issue with them is that their wear rating is not nearly as good as that of the tires of some of their competitors. And my experience has been that they do not, indeed, wear as well as some of the competitor tires. The primary reason is that they start out with only 9/32 of an inch of tread, while tires from some of the competitors start with as much as 12/32 of an inch of tread. That amounts to about 30% more usable tread. And the MXV4s are also somewhat pricier than the similar tires from competitors.

When the MXV4s on my ES need to be replaced, I may well go with the Pirelli Cinturato P7 Plus tires discussed earlier. I've heard nothing but good about them, and they come with a significantly lower price than either of the two Michelin tires being discussed here.

SW17LS

I've always been the same way, but these tires are every bit as good.

Brent1944

I have no clue yet of course if the tires I have on my 2016 Lexus ES 350 are good or not... Rather than the standard 215/55/R17 tires, mine came with the optional 225/45/R18 Michelin Green X... Guess time will tell... I know it was an $880.00 option...

SW17LS

If you have the Michelins that came OEM they're fine tires, I would keep them. If you have the Bridgestones I would replace them.