Need New Tires
10-11-15, 10:03 AM
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Need New Tires
So at 40K, my OEM tires are done with (lasted much longer than i expected). So now time to buy new ones. Here are the two deals I am getting
bridgestone - potenza RE97AS
$677 OTD
Michelin Primacy MXM4
$757 OTD
Which one to go with? Or is there something different I should go with?
bridgestone - potenza RE97AS
$677 OTD
Michelin Primacy MXM4
$757 OTD
Which one to go with? Or is there something different I should go with?
10-11-15, 10:41 AM
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I had Bridgestones on my 2006 Avalon. My 2013 ES 350 came with the Michelins. My preference, and apparently most others on this forum, are the Michelins. The difference of $80.00 is well worth it IMO. Good Luck whatever you decide.
10-11-15, 12:48 PM
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Besides the Michelin Primacy tires that many ES vehicles come equipped with from the factory, the newer Michelin Premiere A/S tires are also available. The Premiere tires are supposed to have better tread life and are supposed to perform better as they wear than the Primacy tires, but the trade-off is that they are rated lower with regard to rolling resistance, which means that fuel economy is likely to be a bit lower than with the Primacy tires. The Premieres have actually been selling for about $25-30 less per tire than the Primacy tires.
While Michelin tires seem to be the overwhelming favorite of people who post here, I would also consider other brands besides Michelin and Bridgestone. With a previously owned Generation 4 ES and with my currently owned 2013 ES, I've had several sets of either the Michelin MXV4 or MXM4 tires. With the previously owned ES, I eventually bought a set of Goodyear Comfortred Touring tires. The ride quality and noise levels were virtually identical to what I got from either of the two Michelins tires, but the set of 4 Goodyears was about $200 less than either of the two Michelins, and I got about 25,000 more miles out of them than I got with either of the two Michelins. When I need new tires on my 2013 ES, I'll probably go with a set of the Comfortreds.
My main issue with both of the Michelin tires is that they start out with only 9/32 or 10/32 of an inch of tread, while many of the tires from their competitors start out with 12/32 of an inch of tread. That translates into 25% or more usable tread on the tires of the competitors that have more initial tread depth, and that difference is a major reason why either of the two Michelin tires is likely to need to be replaced much sooner than the tires of some of their competitors.
While Michelin tires seem to be the overwhelming favorite of people who post here, I would also consider other brands besides Michelin and Bridgestone. With a previously owned Generation 4 ES and with my currently owned 2013 ES, I've had several sets of either the Michelin MXV4 or MXM4 tires. With the previously owned ES, I eventually bought a set of Goodyear Comfortred Touring tires. The ride quality and noise levels were virtually identical to what I got from either of the two Michelins tires, but the set of 4 Goodyears was about $200 less than either of the two Michelins, and I got about 25,000 more miles out of them than I got with either of the two Michelins. When I need new tires on my 2013 ES, I'll probably go with a set of the Comfortreds.
My main issue with both of the Michelin tires is that they start out with only 9/32 or 10/32 of an inch of tread, while many of the tires from their competitors start out with 12/32 of an inch of tread. That translates into 25% or more usable tread on the tires of the competitors that have more initial tread depth, and that difference is a major reason why either of the two Michelin tires is likely to need to be replaced much sooner than the tires of some of their competitors.
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10-11-15, 01:50 PM
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Though I don't have this model, I've put Pirelli Cinturato P7 plus on a couple cars and found them quieter than MXV4 while increasing the handling a bit. MXV4 is a very nice tire though. I had heard the Premiere have issue with noise on some road surfaces, but no experience with that tire.
Has anyone tried these on an ES?
Has anyone tried these on an ES?
10-12-15, 12:10 AM
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MXV4 or Pirelli P7 Plus. Both tires you have listed are rated low in comparison. The MXV4 is the classic that has done well for a very long time, and my personal experience and additional reviews support this to the end, while the P7 Plus is a newcomer that has been rated very well over its short career, but its long-term use reviews are not as prominent.
Remember that discount tire and Firestone will also price match Discount Tire Direct and Tirerack, so there is no need to spend a lot of money on those tires that you have listed when they're not all that great.
Remember that discount tire and Firestone will also price match Discount Tire Direct and Tirerack, so there is no need to spend a lot of money on those tires that you have listed when they're not all that great.
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10-12-15, 03:48 AM
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As confirmed here my others the Pirelli P7 or the Michelin Premier A/S should be your two choices. Tire Rack has the Pirelli #1 and the Michelin #2. Attached is a review that states they are all good with no true winners. Both score extremely high in all categories except ice and snow traction. In California most likely not an issue.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188
10-12-15, 07:19 AM
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As confirmed here my others the Pirelli P7 or the Michelin Premier A/S should be your two choices. Tire Rack has the Pirelli #1 and the Michelin #2. Attached is a review that states they are all good with no true winners. Both score extremely high in all categories except ice and snow traction. In California most likely not an issue.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188
10-28-15, 11:56 AM
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MXV4 or Pirelli P7 Plus. Both tires you have listed are rated low in comparison. The MXV4 is the classic that has done well for a very long time, and my personal experience and additional reviews support this to the end, while the P7 Plus is a newcomer that has been rated very well over its short career, but its long-term use reviews are not as prominent.
Remember that discount tire and Firestone will also price match Discount Tire Direct and Tirerack, so there is no need to spend a lot of money on those tires that you have listed when they're not all that great.
Remember that discount tire and Firestone will also price match Discount Tire Direct and Tirerack, so there is no need to spend a lot of money on those tires that you have listed when they're not all that great.
Mxv4s are no longer available, at least through Lexus. I recently got mine done, and they are mxm4s. Happy with them; way better than the turanzas.
10-28-15, 06:06 PM
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I wouldn't put either tire on the car, I would choose the Pirelli P7 Plus. Tires have a huge impact on how a Lexus rides and sounds. Crappy tires will really reduce what the car excels at.
10-29-15, 05:00 AM
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Anyone ever run Continentals?
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