Originally Posted by rustytank

Our dealer always uses latest fully equipped black on black models. IMO, i think they do this on purpose to entice current owners to get new models... Also, our dealer don't sell loaners as CPO's. They sell it as a new car. Loaner cars don't get registered so even if it has 10,000 miles, you'll be the first owner, thus new car. They would usually tell you its "a dealer's car" or "the manager use to drive it" or something along those lines...

Originally Posted by Keppie

I test drove a 2013 ES 350 today and in "Park" with the radio off, it was extremely noisy. It had to be the engine as nothing else adds up. Has anyone experienced this? What could it be as most people say the ES 350 is quiet? The CPO dealer is offering $35,500 for this 15,000 mileage car. Good deal?

Originally Posted by jagiovana

Check the ventilated seats...

Originally Posted by sderman

With our '14 ES350's AC on today and with both front seats in the max ventilated mode we barely heard a sound.

Originally Posted by lesz

Same thing here. I think my hearing is fine, but, unless I put my ear right next to the seat, I don't hear any sound sound coming from the ventilated seats with the the seat fan set even to the highest setting, and, even with my ear right next to the seats, the sound sound that I hear from the fan for the ventilated seats even at the highest fan setting is still at an extremely low level.