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Old 06-25-14, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rustytank
I did part number search on sewellparts.com and turns out, ES350 is equipped with 2 different sets of struts and coils, one of which is shared with ES300h.
I'm guessing this is the stiffer/sportier suspension equipped on ES350's with 18" wheels as well.


Green = Stiff suspension
Orange = Soft suspension

ES 300H

FRONT STRUTS
4851080582 - ABSORBER ASSY, SHOCK, FRONT (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48510-33680
4852080302 - ABSORBER ABSORBER SET, SHOCK, ASSY, SHOCK, FRONT (LEFT, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48520-33680

REAR STRUTS
4853080641 - ABSORBER ABSORBER SET, SHOCK, ASSY, SHOCK, REAR (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33500
4854080017 - ABSORBER ASSY, SHOCK, REAR (LEFT, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33500

FRONT COILS
4813133C10 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE)
4813233060 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (LEFT, DRIVER SIDE)

REAR COILS
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE)
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (LEFT, DRIVER SIDE)


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ES 350

FRONT STRUTS
4851080582 - ABSORBER ASSY, SHOCK, FRONT (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48510-33680
4852080302 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48520-33690
4851080606 - ABSORBER 6 ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48510-33690
4852080320 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48520-33690

REAR STRUTS

4853080641 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33500
4854080017 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33500
4853080706 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33490
4853080655 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM
4854080020 - ABSORBER 6 ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33490
4854080019 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM

FRONT COILS
4813133C10 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4813233060 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (LH, DRIVER SIDE)

REAR COILS
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE)
4823133630 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4823133630 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE)



I wish i had known this before the purchase...
I can't wait to put some miles on my es300h. So i can replace the suspension with the soft version of es350 i hope that helps little. I can't change nyc roads(worst roads in whole country,but who u going to complain to?) But i can alway change car sorry lexus es300h size is here but no comfort
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Old 06-25-14, 01:05 PM
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I have same problem with my es300h its so stiff and uncomfortable on nyc streets that makes my teeth rattle i can't believe anyone would say this car is comfortable. I came from ls460 make biggest mistake in my life changing to es300h its loud noisy and i can't stand this elevator sound when u coming to stop. Gas consumption is ok when u drive like old lady otherwise is around 33mpg, mark levinson way off compared to ls460 and bigest disappointment is seats comfort and leather quality i got the ul version with perforated leather not nulux and looks like it has at least 300k on them all wrinkled just terrible my ls 460 seats with 260 k on it looked much better and seats looked like new my previus ls430 with 420k looked newer inside. I use my cars for livery services i know lexus in and out i love lex for quality ,reliability and long lasting compared to other makes like bmw (good until 70k) or benz (good for 80k without repairs) but i don't think so es300h will stand like his predecessors. That's my 2 cents
As much as I like my ES, I know it isn't a LS.
You do get what you pay for.
Just looking like a LS does not a LS make.
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Originally Posted by jachim1
I can't wait to put some miles on my es300h. So i can replace the suspension with the soft version of es350 i hope that helps little
Go for it. It'll be night and day. For me, long story short, manager at the dealer took the 300h back admitting partial fault of the sales person's lack of knowledge on the suspensions and also on bases of me buying a 2014 350 fully loaded, which i picked up on Monday and I couldn't be happier again.

Just a a side note, i test drove the new Cadillac XTS few days ago thinking maybe i should trade in 300h and the ES350 rides so much smoother than the XTS...
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Originally Posted by rustytank
Go for it. It'll be night and day. For me, long story short, manager at the dealer took the 300h back admitting partial fault of the sales person's lack of knowledge on the suspensions and also on bases of me buying a 2014 350 fully loaded, which i picked up on Monday and I couldn't be happier again.

Just a a side note, i test drove the new Cadillac XTS few days ago thinking maybe i should trade in 300h and the ES350 rides so much smoother than the XTS...
Lucky you to find such nice manager who let exchange your used 300h for new 350 please confirm that you actually feel the difference in ride quality so i can give lexus a call to find out hov much they will rob me fo changing four struts i remember on ls they wanted almost 4k for non air susp strut replacement i have to drive the es350 to confirm and justify that money spent
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Like i said, its like night and day, for me... You know that feeling when you constantly hit potholes that makes your teeth jarr and your body crunch? You won't feel any of that in an ES350. I think it will cost your around $2,000 to swap it out.
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Originally Posted by rustytank
Like i said, its like night and day, for me... You know that feeling when you constantly hit potholes that makes your teeth jarr and your body crunch? You won't feel any of that in an ES350. I think it will cost your around $2,000 to swap it out.
Did you also confirm that the ES350UL with 18" wheels has the stiffer suspension as well? I have been considering the UL, but I don't want to sacrifice the ride for pretty wheels and a couple of features. Unfortunately, the ULs are never available for a test drive, so there is no way to compare short of buying one.
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Originally Posted by gnm313
Did you also confirm that the ES350UL with 18" wheels has the stiffer suspension as well? I have been considering the UL, but I don't want to sacrifice the ride for pretty wheels and a couple of features. Unfortunately, the ULs are never available for a test drive, so there is no way to compare short of buying one.
No, i haven't but i hear you about not being able to test drive certain models/packages. I wanted to test drive f-sport a while back and none of the dealers had it available for test drive...
Anyway, not sure about the suspension but you will definitely feel more road imperfections with 18" wheels that's for sure.
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Originally Posted by gnm313
Unfortunately, the ULs are never available for a test drive, so there is no way to compare short of buying one.
Strange, when I purchased mine in Schaumburg, they had several UL's to drive. Not sure what part of IL your in, but you may want to consider going to a more populous area to drive one.
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Strange, when I purchased mine in Schaumburg, they had several UL's to drive. Not sure what part of IL your in, but you may want to consider going to a more populous area to drive one.
II think it is coming to the end of the season. I am only finding 1 or 2 at each dealer. The dealers want to move their inventory, I just checked Woodfield and they have 4. I might take a trip and see if they will let me take a spin. Not sure if they can still call it new if they let me drive it, but at least they have some. There are some LEs with 18" wheels too, so that will be the same test.

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Keep us posted... I'm really curious about suspensions on 18" wheels... They might have a version of their own that's different from 300 and 350 all together...
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Are we sure that the Orange Color is the softer suspension? By the description it would seem it is the stiffer suspension. The word Sport leads me to feel this is the case.

4854080019 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM
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Originally Posted by jollick
Are we sure that the Orange Color is the softer suspension? By the description it would seem it is the stiffer suspension. The word Sport leads me to feel this is the case.

4854080019 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM
That's the thing, im not sure... I know the others are correct but these two that are specifically for "225/45R18", im not sure if these are soft or stiff. I probably shouldn't have used orange for those two in the previous post...
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Originally Posted by gnm313
Not sure if they can still call it new if they let me drive it.
Yes, it's considered new until they title it. They offered me any car on the lot to drive.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by rustytank
ES 350

FRONT STRUTS
4851080582 - ABSORBER ASSY, SHOCK, FRONT (RIGHT, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48510-33680
4852080302 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48520-33690
4851080606 - ABSORBER 6 ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48510-33690
4852080320 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, FRONT (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48520-33690

REAR STRUTS

4853080641 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33500
4854080017 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33500
4853080706 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33490
4853080655 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE) MARK 48530-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM
4854080020 - ABSORBER 6 ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33490
4854080019 - ABSORBER ASSEMBLY, SHOCK, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE) MARK 48540-33510,B PACKAGE &SPORT PACK&TIRE & DISCWHEEL-225/45R18 ALL SEASON TIRE ALUMINUM

FRONT COILS
4813133C10 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4813233060 - SPRING, FRONT COIL, (LH, DRIVER SIDE)

REAR COILS
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4823133640 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE)
4823133630 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (RH, PASSENGER SIDE)
4823133630 - SPRING, COIL, REAR (LH, DRIVER SIDE)
Any more news or insight on this? Specifically curious about the difference between the "SPORT PACK&TIRE" suspension that comes with the 18" rims in the UL and how different that is from the non-UL versions
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I haven't had time to get to the dealer. Still on my list for the next couple of weeks.
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