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Old 11-11-13, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
I am surprised by how much I like this feature actually...driving a car without it now feels awkward...
Yes,
I too love the BSM and Cross Traffic, those are great features, I always tell people you really don’t know how great they are until you start using them and relying on them. It is so cool to know at a glance if something is in your blind spot and I have been saved at least once by the Cross traffic in a fast food parking lot. I most definitely would not want to live without them now that I have gotten a taste.
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I traded a 2006 ES-330 for the 2013. I agree with all the discussion on the eye-glass holder being removed - it was handy. There were several other items that were once standard that are now optional or not provided - such as the Memory System for the passenger seat. I have been disappointed in the Voice Command menu. I have a Garmin GPS I use for rental cars that has a far better menu of voice commands than the Lexus. Finally, the Apps that work through your smart phone just haven't seemed all the convenient to use. In the end, however, I really like the car - comfortable, quiet, safe and good on the Freeways.
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I have a suspicion the sunglass holder was removed for a few reasons. And the SOS button was put in it's place.

1. People were accidentally hitting the SOS button when trying to hit another button and tying up an operator's time that could be spent helping an actual emergency.
2. Seperating the SOS button helps people find it easier/quicker in an actual emergency.
3. Most sunglasses these days are too large to fit in there anyways.

Just my 2 cents. That is all.
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Originally Posted by offroad200
I have a suspicion the sunglass holder was removed for a few reasons. And the SOS button was put in it's place.

1. People were accidentally hitting the SOS button when trying to hit another button and tying up an operator's time that could be spent helping an actual emergency.
2. Seperating the SOS button helps people find it easier/quicker in an actual emergency.
3. Most sunglasses these days are too large to fit in there anyways.

Just my 2 cents. That is all.
The sunglass holder coexisted with the SOS button before, and still does on the LS.
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
The sunglass holder coexisted with the SOS button before, and still does on the LS.

I'm aware. The LS is a much lower volume car compared to the ES though. Ultimately, no one may never know.
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Originally Posted by offroad200
I'm aware. The LS is a much lower volume car compared to the ES though. Ultimately, no one may never know.
We know...its cost cutting
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Originally Posted by offroad200
I have a suspicion the sunglass holder was removed for a few reasons. And the SOS button was put in it's place.

1. People were accidentally hitting the SOS button when trying to hit another button and tying up an operator's time that could be spent helping an actual emergency.
2. Seperating the SOS button helps people find it easier/quicker in an actual emergency.
3. Most sunglasses these days are too large to fit in there anyways.

Just my 2 cents. That is all.
Wow, I hope you don’t actually believe what you just posted!

I am going to reserve comment as to not insult anyone……
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Originally Posted by bhammill49
I traded a 2006 ES-330 for the 2013. I agree with all the discussion on the eye-glass holder being removed - it was handy. There were several other items that were once standard that are now optional or not provided - such as the Memory System for the passenger seat. I have been disappointed in the Voice Command menu. I have a Garmin GPS I use for rental cars that has a far better menu of voice commands than the Lexus. Finally, the Apps that work through your smart phone just haven't seemed all the convenient to use. In the end, however, I really like the car - comfortable, quiet, safe and good on the Freeways.
I agree with most of what you said, though there is one that is soooo “Freaking Cool”, the eDestination App allows you to program your vehicle’s Navigation from the App, this is the Same functionality you can do from your web browser. I have not seen anyone comment on it at all, it is one of my Favorite Features!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bhammill49
I traded a 2006 ES-330 for the 2013. I agree with all the discussion on the eye-glass holder being removed - it was handy. There were several other items that were once standard that are now optional or not provided - such as the Memory System for the passenger seat. I have been disappointed in the Voice Command menu. I have a Garmin GPS I use for rental cars that has a far better menu of voice commands than the Lexus. Finally, the Apps that work through your smart phone just haven't seemed all the convenient to use. In the end, however, I really like the car - comfortable, quiet, safe and good on the Freeways.
I have the 2013 ES350 Ultra Luxury and it has the Memory System for the passenger seat. I actually thought all of the ES’s had the Memory on both sides as my 2007 (Also a Ultra Luxury) also had it.

One thing that would have been nice is a toggle where you could switch to either the driver or passenger seat memory from the driver’s side similar to the way that the mirror toggle works.
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Originally Posted by imz14u2nv
I have the 2013 ES350 Ultra Luxury and it has the Memory System for the passenger seat. I actually thought all of the ES’s had the Memory on both sides as my 2007 (Also a Ultra Luxury) also had it.
Its a UL package item. My 2010 didn't have the memory passenger seat, wasn't a UL.
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I had a non-UL 2007 ES350 with memory seats on both sides. Then got a non-UL 2010 ES350 with drivers memory seat only.
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You guys that are grousing about the loss of the sunglasses holder - what kind of glasses do you have, because I've never owned a pair that fit in the holder in my 2007 ES 350. Now, my readers will fit nicely...
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Originally Posted by jagiovana
You guys that are grousing about the loss of the sunglasses holder - what kind of glasses do you have, because I've never owned a pair that fit in the holder in my 2007 ES 350. Now, my readers will fit nicely...
I've owned several pairs of Ray Bans and Maui Jims, never had a problem with them fitting in the sunglass holder.
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Originally Posted by jagiovana
You guys that are grousing about the loss of the sunglasses holder - what kind of glasses do you have, because I've never owned a pair that fit in the holder in my 2007 ES 350. Now, my readers will fit nicely...
I have Titanium Framed Prescription Eyeglasses which have a Magnetic Polarized Clip-On, I used to keep the Clip-On in the Sunglass Holder. Now I have to keep it un-protected in the small storage bin on the Armrest. I am really surprised with the two statements about the size of sunglasses, Every pair of Sunglasses that I would consider wearing are no larger than any normal eyeglasses, at least the ones that I would wear.

Again, the feature was there on the previous car, same model, I don’t think it is un-reasonable to expect it on a newer version of the same vehicle.
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I don't think my new glasses would fit:



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