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Old 01-05-14, 05:27 PM   #31
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Great thank you
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Old 01-06-14, 10:36 AM   #32
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Thank you very much but everyone knows to use common sense driving in inclement weather. I am simply trying to determine the ES 300H capabilities as equipped with factory tires
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Old 02-13-14, 05:13 AM   #33
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Here's the issue...experience driving the ES350 in the snow and the ES300h in the snow won't always be applicable. My two previous ES's were okay in the snow. Not great, but okay. Would have been better on winter tires but we don't really have the climate for them down in MD.

I will tell you that our old Prius was almost undrivable in the snow, and the reason for that was the overzealous traction control system. Apparently the hybrid system doesn't like wheelspin, so the system was designed to not allow any...which is a problem when trying to get going in the snow. All power would just shut down whenever the slightest wheelspin was detected.

Now, that was 10 years ago...technology has improved maybe its not an issue anymore...but be careful when assuming the 300h will be fine because the 350 is. I would like to see some experiences specifically of 300h drivers in the snow...

If your Camry can't get up a hill, the ES won't either 350 or 300h.
No, things haven't gotten better with Toyotas; same experience with my 2011 Camry Hybrid. Totally unusable due to this issue. You can't spin even a tiny drop, in an effort to power forward or to rock yourself out of a slippery spot. My car is worthless in Maryland, with just a few inches of unplowed snow on the ground.
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No, things haven't gotten better with Toyotas; same experience with my 2011 Camry Hybrid. Totally unusable due to this issue. You can't spin even a tiny drop, in an effort to power forward or to rock yourself out of a slippery spot. My car is worthless in Maryland, with just a few inches of unplowed snow on the ground.
Fwd Camry without snow tires right?
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No, things haven't gotten better with Toyotas; same experience with my 2011 Camry Hybrid. Totally unusable due to this issue. You can't spin even a tiny drop, in an effort to power forward or to rock yourself out of a slippery spot. My car is worthless in Maryland, with just a few inches of unplowed snow on the ground.
The issue is not "Toyotas" the issue is "hybrid". Wheelspin is quite detrimental to the hybrid system, which is why the traction control system doesn't allow much of it.
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The issue is not "Toyotas" the issue is "hybrid". Wheelspin is quite detrimental to the hybrid system, which is why the traction control system doesn't allow much of it.
Thank you guys, these are the constructive information I am looking for
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The Trac Off button will defeat the traction control (but not the stability control) and allow wheel spin. An ES300h in Sport Mode and Trac Off will smoke the tires abundantly...
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So now that the winter is over, what was the overall experience with winter driving and the Lexus implementation of the Toyota hybrid drive?
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Hello!

I'd be also interested to hear winter experiences with this hybrid system. Local car magazine made a winter test with IS 300h in it, otherwise they liked it (good heater and handling), but agressive traction control took power away too much. If you turn it off, electronic differential lock will turn off too.

Of 15 tested cars, IS 300h came fourth in that test btw.

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