LexBob2

I had a 2007 and 2010 ES350 and both cars had nav + the compass in he mirror. If I remember correctly they went with the current configuration with the 2011 model. I'd miss the compass in the mirror too.

We have a new car which has the compass in the mirror as well as navigation which we like.

SW17LS

Sure, cost cutting happens on entry level cars. They packed more content into a car and held the price point...something has to give. If the cost cutting bothers you...spend more. I moved up the GS because of cost cutting in the ES.

My GS has no compass mirror. My old ES did, but it did not have a alphanumerical compass display on the nav screen like my new GS and the ES does. Its redundant anyways, why do you want two compasses?

Right, your Avalon is the flagship Toyota...this is the entry level Lexus.

Sounds like maybe you should consider leaving the navigation system on.

Well...sorry. They removed it on all Lexus models with navigation because its redundant.

I just went from compass in the mirror to compass in the nav screen and honestly didn't even realize the change until just now.

UTAS

Well, gees. It was only an opinion. Dial back the expresso.

flowrider

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I have a compass in the mirror of my F, do I really need it, Nope I don't. Do I like having, Yep I do. No compass on my Nav screen, but Since I know North from South and East from West, just glancing at my Nav screen tells me what direction I'm headed. The Compass, no a big deal to me.

However, the sunglass holder is another matter, if that weren't there, I would really miss it.

Lou

SW17LS

Yeah I absolutely don't understand why they decided its delete the sunglasses holder...

andywoods

I wonder why none of the screens show a clock. Yes I know there is an analog clock in the center of the dash. It would just be nice to have the date and time displayed. Would really be nich if your schedule from your phone would load to the car. That way in the morning it could remind you what on your to do list.

jollick

I like the idea of having your appointments on the nav., we should recommend this to our Lexus dealers, it might happen in a future release of the apps.

dochusar

I do not miss the compass in the mirror, never really accurate, I had the compass in the Audi, Mercedes, Volvo and my first Lexus.

I did not have compass in the mirror in my BMW, Porsche and now in my two current vehicles.

Neoxagon

That's one of the things I really don't like about the ES.

The LS has one.

SW17LS

Does the 2013 LS still have one?

I don't understand the purpose of doing away with it on the ES or GS.

UTAS

Perhaps because there was always a glove compartment, Lexus thought a sunglass holder would be "redundant." Like the redundant compass (post #18) in the mirror being replaced by a fancy navigation system, which until recently was not always available.

More plausible: Or perhaps the ES design team decided to drop both at the same time for no good reason. Cost cutting, maybe. Unless one was part of the design team, that remains unknown.

SW17LS

But they went from not having sunglass holders to having sunglass holders to not having sunglass holders...had a glove box all along.

I don't see how it saves any cost, and since they retained the compass mirror in cars without the navigation system I don't see that as the reason.

uicandrew

With the SOS button, overhead lights and sunroof buttons, is there even enough space for it?

SW17LS

My 2010 had overhead lights, sunroof buttons, an SOS button and a sunglass holder

Neoxagon

The new Avalon hybrid also has a sunglass holder and I can verify that it will hold a really large pair of shades, as we tested it on our test drive.