"A Bit Louder & Stiffer Than the Previous ES"
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"A Bit Louder & Stiffer Than the Previous ES"
So says Consumer Reports:
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
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So says Consumer Reports: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOpsFg2H_S8
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
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CR's test car in that video is a UL with the 18" wheels. I have only driven the 2013 with the 17s, but I have driven several of them back to back and I can tell you that the 2013 rides and drives very similarly to my 2010. If you shut your eyes, you would be hard pressed to tell which car you're in. So I would say that the statement that the 2013 overall is louder and stiffer than the previous ES isn't the case, I would attribute that tester's experience to that specific ES having the 18" wheels.
If you want the smoothest, quietest ride, definitely get the 17s. If I got a UL I would swap them for 17s, the dealer should be happy to do that since he can upsell a downlevel ES on the lot if he puts the 18s on it.
If you want the smoothest, quietest ride, definitely get the 17s. If I got a UL I would swap them for 17s, the dealer should be happy to do that since he can upsell a downlevel ES on the lot if he puts the 18s on it.
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Here's Dallas/Ft Worth based car guru Ed Wallace tv review of the new ES 300:
Ed Wallace - Lexus 350
Last Modified: Oct 12, 2012 8:06 AM CDT
Read more: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/search?vendo...#ixzz29xTWbgaS
He found the noise level only within 2 decibels from the LS. Also stated that the longer wheel base allows the new ES to ride "infinitely better" than past ES.
Ed Wallace - Lexus 350
Last Modified: Oct 12, 2012 8:06 AM CDT
Read more: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/search?vendo...#ixzz29xTWbgaS
He found the noise level only within 2 decibels from the LS. Also stated that the longer wheel base allows the new ES to ride "infinitely better" than past ES.
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So says Consumer Reports: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOpsFg2H_S8
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
Not what I wanted to hear. None of the automakers seems willing to build a really quiet car that smothers the big bumps well anymore! The Mercury Marquis and Lincoln Towncar are gone forever. The latest Buick sedans I have rented have 55 series tires that transmit alot of road shock to the car body. As do all the Cadillac sedans.
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What ^^^^ said. Mine was delivered with TP at 38#. According to the sticker, they should be at 32, I think. I dropped mine to 32# cold and it rides better and improved the steering feel. According the the display, they increase about 5# when hot.
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I wouldn't agree with "infinitely better" than my 2010, but certainly not harder riding. Like I said, the two cars ride very much the same.
+1 for air pressure. I drove a 300h and a 350 back to back, 300h had PSI at 40, and the 350 had them aired correctly, huge difference.
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There is nothing on the tires that tells you what the proper inflation is, the 33 on the door sticker is good for whatever brand tire.
If you want the best ride, air them to 33. Dealers always over-inflate tires.
If you want the best ride, air them to 33. Dealers always over-inflate tires.
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Thats a question I've been asking myself for many, many years LOL
I think they just don't take the time to look at the individual specs on the different vehicles, and every tech has a different idea of what tire pressures "should be", so they just air them to that.
I have never had a car come back from dealer service without needing air let out of the tires...
I think they just don't take the time to look at the individual specs on the different vehicles, and every tech has a different idea of what tire pressures "should be", so they just air them to that.
I have never had a car come back from dealer service without needing air let out of the tires...
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To be fair, 2dB isn't a small difference. dB is only part of the story of a car riding quietly however...
I wouldn't agree with "infinitely better" than my 2010, but certainly not harder riding. Like I said, the two cars ride very much the same.
+1 for air pressure. I drove a 300h and a 350 back to back, 300h had PSI at 40, and the 350 had them aired correctly, huge difference.
I wouldn't agree with "infinitely better" than my 2010, but certainly not harder riding. Like I said, the two cars ride very much the same.
+1 for air pressure. I drove a 300h and a 350 back to back, 300h had PSI at 40, and the 350 had them aired correctly, huge difference.
MY 2010 tires call for 30psi. I hate it whenever they rotate tires. They set it at 30 psi and the darn things feel like marshmallows going into a turn, unless your speed is like those in a funeral procession. I usually set them back at 33 psi and it seems to feel better.
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No I agree, the 2013 has much lighter steering. It's because it's a fully electronic assist system. Takes a little getting used to, but at low speeds I kind of liked it...