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Old 02-06-12, 06:51 AM
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Will the ESh cost around $2500 more?
Old 02-06-12, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Lexus did a number of things to keep the MSRP down. No more 4.6, no 8 speed, same chassis bit reworked a bit, no real new tech that has not been debuted on other Lexus models. The 2013 is essentially the same model only updated.
Are you AutoUnion? Or another troll? You really need to try harder to hide your trolling because I've suspected you ever since you've started posting here.

One thing, having no 4.6 V8 model does nothing to lower the base price of the GS (which is what you were replying to). And it was noted that a loaded GS350 actually has a higher MSRP than a similar 3GS, likely due to the new tech and R&D that went into the development of the new model. You may not be a fan of the 4GS, but don't make baseless claims like you just did without backing it up.

The V8 model will come anyway in the form of the GS-F
Old 02-06-12, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mordecai
The V8 model will come anyway in the form of the GS-F
lexus has made no announcement that a GS-F is coming.
Old 02-07-12, 07:00 AM
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I know. It's all rumors at this point, but I believe it will come less Lexus wants the F line to deteriorate.
Old 02-13-12, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
lexus has made no announcement that a GS-F is coming.
That doesn't mean it's not coming .
Old 02-13-12, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
lexus has made no announcement that a GS-F is coming.
That's true. However, the fact that the 4GS does not offer a V8 is an indication that a GS-F is in the pipeline.
Old 02-13-12, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
lexus has made no announcement that a GS-F is coming.
Might depend on how the new GS sells.
I think it will do ok early but sell only a bit more than the last generation.
Old 02-13-12, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
Might depend on how the new GS sells.
I think it will do ok early but sell only a bit more than the last generation.
I agree. The GS is still wedged in between the LS and ES. Tough competiton.
Old 02-13-12, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scgt652
That's true. However, the fact that the 4GS does not offer a V8 is an indication that a GS-F is in the pipeline.
actually that's even more scary because if they make a gsf that really compete with m5 and e63, it will be a HUGE gap away from the gs350
Old 02-13-12, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
actually that's even more scary because if they make a gsf that really compete with m5 and e63, it will be a HUGE gap away from the gs350
and much smaller gap to GS450h.
Old 02-13-12, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
actually that's even more scary because if they make a gsf that really compete with m5 and e63, it will be a HUGE gap away from the gs350
^^^ I agree, but I perhaps Lexus is just being extra cautious here. They don't want to have 2 V8s, GSF and GS F-Sport under same roof, since one or even both may suffer.

There will be a gap I agree, but personally I'd rather have the GS-F + the gap lol than nothing at all
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Originally Posted by spwolf
and much smaller gap to GS450h.
i didn't read that gs450h is huge performance leap from the gs350 fsport. did you even drive the cars yet? last i checked the gs450h isn't even going to perform like a v8 e or 5, let alone the amg and m

Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
^^^ I agree, but I perhaps Lexus is just being extra cautious here. They don't want to have 2 V8s, GSF and GS F-Sport under same roof, since one or even both may suffer.

There will be a gap I agree, but personally I'd rather have the GS-F + the gap lol than nothing at all
it could be and i surely hope so

what i am trying to say is that with the big gap, we don't know where lexus would land the gsf, if they actually make one. look at e550 and 550i, both of them are incredible and that pushes the e63 and m5 to be even further out. with lexus not having a real v8 that's head to head with e550 and 550i, what will gsf be?
Old 02-14-12, 11:32 AM
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Its funny (and kinda says a lot) at how much more I see dealers happy about the upcoming ES than the GS/IS that is coming. We all know the ES is going to sell like hotcakes. I wish more focus and effort was made by salespeople/dealerships to sell the IS/GS.
Old 02-14-12, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Its funny (and kinda says a lot) at how much more I see dealers happy about the upcoming ES than the GS/IS that is coming. We all know the ES is going to sell like hotcakes. I wish more focus and effort was made by salespeople/dealerships to sell the IS/GS.
I feel the IS will sell well but after a decent start,sales of the GS will go back to being low.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Its funny (and kinda says a lot) at how much more I see dealers happy about the upcoming ES than the GS/IS that is coming. We all know the ES is going to sell like hotcakes. I wish more focus and effort was made by salespeople/dealerships to sell the IS/GS.
reason why i don't understand lexus cramping all these releases so close to each other


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