Paul3637

Interesting because most of them are T rated with up to 100,000 mile tread wear rating. Consumer Reports rated the Defender as the #1 T rated tire but did not test them in the V rated version..

The 215/55/17 defender (size for ES & Avalon) does come in a V rating with and an 80,000 mile treadwear warranty. It is a bit more expensive than the H rated Primacy and it is not as good in the rolling resistence department.

http://www.michelinman.com/tire-sele...mTdWidget=true

Over in the Avalon forum

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/15...-michelin.html

.... Jim08 ..... who has TWO gen3 Avalons recently put Primacy H rated on one ...... and defenders on the other. He's happy with both initially but hasn't had them long enough to post a "long term" update. Stay tuned !!!!!!!

CDNlexES

anyone who used this tire in their lexus es350 yet?

SW17LS

For your sister's Civic I might look at the Yokahama Avid Touring S. When we had our Prius and it needed tires I didn't want to spend the money for the Primacy's for it, so on reading reviews and all I went for the very cheap Avid Touring S (like $70 each), and they were great tires. Very smooth and quiet, very round which is something I like about Michelins, they aren't hard to balance like a lot of other tires. The Exaltos are also too much tire for a car like the the Civic, go for those Avid's...you'll like them.

As for the alignment. An alignment is $60, takes 30 minutes. If your car were young, that would be one thing, but its not. 25k miles or not, its going on 6 years old. Plenty of alignment issues that would not cause a drivability concern, but that would cause premature tire, hub, and suspension component wear. Once you see that wear, its going to cost you more than $60.

This is from your own linked Acura thread, from your own post you highlighted

Bear in mind everybody in that thread is talking about taking a car in for an alignment with no symptoms and without having just replaced the tires. Thats a "preventative alignment", which I would not do either. However, when you replace tires its a logical time to have an alignment done.

jcat_350

not that i'm aware of yet, but once it comes time, you can pretty much bet I'll be getting them.

Paul3637

Yes .... see post #31 above.

Go here:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es3...s-350-a-2.html

jacobjohn

I think he was talking about the Nitto Motivo's

Paul3637

oops sorry.

Or was he talking about the defender.

I found the most useful place to go for independent/user reviews on your specific car is tirerack.

jkutti2000

ok.. some thing to share.. I got Michellin primacy MX4 and the ride was good. compared to the OEM 36K tires I replaced

but some thing even better. .I got them rotated balanced . after 6 K.. now 42K and the feel of the road is MUCH better
dont know what happened but the balancing /rotation has taken the road feel /handling to another level- smoother /silent ride NOW.

Brockton

I need a new set on my 2008.

I have been thinking about going to a 225 instead of 215. Has anyone had experience with a wider tire?

LHH

The Bridgestone Serenity Plus Tires are rated #1 on Tirerack.com under the "all seasons grand touring category".

I had a set of the regular Serenity tires before and these tires are even better. Very quiet, wear well and are terrific in the rain.

Enjoy!

JayPee

Couple of months ago, I got Bridgestone tires for $550 after some negotiations and using $150+ coupon. Too bad my Lexus got totaled after 2 weeks when tires had only 500 miles on it.

Recently bought another 2008 ES350....

Gapwedge

Putting some Primacy MXV4 H rated on my '10 ES350. (1) What is the ideal tire pressure for riding comfort and 2) nitrogen or air- preference? Thanks.

Put 30# in all 4 with air. Rides like a dream.