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Purchased mu wife a Lincoln MKZ last week. Drove it for the first time today.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
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Purchased mu wife a Lincoln MKZ last week. Drove it for the first time today.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
Enjoy your Ford product.
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Purchased mu wife a Lincoln MKZ last week. Drove it for the first time today.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires
regular gas and almost has the same get up and go. Fully loaded it set me back 33k list was 36k. $12,000 less than my ES. cost me. Did I mention a 1.9
interest rate. Maybe american makers are back. It sure doesnt hurt them that
Lexus built a lemon this time. If I could get out of my lease unhurt I would be in a MKZ tomorrow.
I almost waited for one of those myself, congrats to your wife and you on the car.
For you, have you considered trading to a vehicle with a lower MSRP to offset what would be a loss?
Though I ended up getting a check from Honda in my trade, I did still lose money on the 2 ES350 experiences I had, but I GAINED big time not having to deal with the issues of the ES. As for the vehicle, the only thing I do not have in the Accord that I did in the ES is the push button start and I didn't like it much to miss it anyway.
Consumer Reports will list the ES as it does the Camry as they technically do currently by association, and once that happens by directly listing the ES the book value will drop like a rock, so waiting may not be the answer, trading before that happens may save you money in the long run.
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One area that is important to me is resale/residual values. That is one area that the American makes can't compare to the Toyota/Honda lines. I flip my cars every two years. I cannot afford to take the hit on these cars. They would be great used cars to purchase.
I will say that the American car residuals are improving. But, still have a way to go.
Enjoy the MKZ.
I will say that the American car residuals are improving. But, still have a way to go.
Enjoy the MKZ.
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One area that is important to me is resale/residual values. That is one area that the American makes can't compare to the Toyota/Honda lines. I flip my cars every two years. I cannot afford to take the hit on these cars. They would be great used cars to purchase.
I will say that the American car residuals are improving. But, still have a way to go.
Enjoy the MKZ.
I will say that the American car residuals are improving. But, still have a way to go.
Enjoy the MKZ.
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very nice congrats, just picked up an 08 300c AWD with a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty
I like Lexus but it seems like they are just starting to capitalize on the popularity of their products and charge a premium for the name Lexus
I like Lexus but it seems like they are just starting to capitalize on the popularity of their products and charge a premium for the name Lexus
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I heard that Chrysler was offering a "wrap around" warranty for their lifetime powertrain warranty. I think that is a great offer for those who keep their car a long time. Congrats!
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As much as I'm enjoying my AWD 3GS, if in a near future Hyundai will make Sonata in AWD, I might even consider that.
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[quote=twister;3147242]What issues?!?
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires regular gas, Lexus built a lemon this time.
The bold text above appear to be his 'issues'. My 'comment' to reply is-
I feel my 350 UL is also a great car for the money. I did not buy an ES to be a race car, the handling and perfomance on snow and ice here in Colorado is nothing short of amazing! It is among the quietest cars I have ever driven (no American car has even been close). I use nothing but regular gas in my 350, with no problems and great MPG. As far as the 'lemon' comment, are there not laws to protect the consumer? Dare we look at track records for recalls and lawsuits, Ford vs. Toyota?
Are you unclear about the meaning of the word 'issues'?
Great car for the money. It handles better than my ES350, is quieter,requires regular gas, Lexus built a lemon this time.
The bold text above appear to be his 'issues'. My 'comment' to reply is-
I feel my 350 UL is also a great car for the money. I did not buy an ES to be a race car, the handling and perfomance on snow and ice here in Colorado is nothing short of amazing! It is among the quietest cars I have ever driven (no American car has even been close). I use nothing but regular gas in my 350, with no problems and great MPG. As far as the 'lemon' comment, are there not laws to protect the consumer? Dare we look at track records for recalls and lawsuits, Ford vs. Toyota?
Are you unclear about the meaning of the word 'issues'?
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"comparison" doesn't mean "issues". Everything he listed is a comparison of his new MKZ to ES350.
Dave, I'm happy you have a trouble-free ES350 and joined a small group of ES350 "cheerleaders" who reply to every single trouble-post in this forum with "My car is great, I have no problems". But you can't be in denial about hundreds, actually over a thousand just on East Coast, buybacks (including myself after 2 failed trannies). Lets hope '08 models are better. Also, its very alarming to see people who had occasional flares last year and didn't address it with their dealership now having "x-mas light celebration on their dashboard" when tranny needs to be replaced.
Dave, I'm happy you have a trouble-free ES350 and joined a small group of ES350 "cheerleaders" who reply to every single trouble-post in this forum with "My car is great, I have no problems". But you can't be in denial about hundreds, actually over a thousand just on East Coast, buybacks (including myself after 2 failed trannies). Lets hope '08 models are better. Also, its very alarming to see people who had occasional flares last year and didn't address it with their dealership now having "x-mas light celebration on their dashboard" when tranny needs to be replaced.
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The 4Runner had an extended warranty that paid for itself, another great vehicle but my only real concern with new cars is the electronics, replacement parts and labor is shocking.
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This warranty was a good move on the part of Cerberus/Chrysler LLC to improve consumer confidence in their vehicles. Especially since the sale of Chrysler to Cerberus.
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