Wind Noise - Part 3 --- Pics for DIY fix
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When I went for a ride with the tech to show him the dash rattle, I mentioned the slight wind noise I have at > 50Mph. He listened to it and said there were others that were worse, but the opinion in the shop is that it is a turbulance caused by the positioning of the side mirror on the door. He thinks the wind is being pushed into the window by the mirror and its location was likely a last minute decision by the engineers that was not tested out well enough. He said that we will likely see a subtle change in design for the next model year that resolves the issue.
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When I went for a ride with the tech to show him the dash rattle, I mentioned the slight wind noise I have at > 50Mph. He listened to it and said there were others that were worse, but the opinion in the shop is that it is a turbulance caused by the positioning of the side mirror on the door. He thinks the wind is being pushed into the window by the mirror and its location was likely a last minute decision by the engineers that was not tested out well enough. He said that we will likely see a subtle change in design for the next model year that resolves the issue.
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Another way for them to offer the above "explanation" is by saying that other folks perhaps are a bit more/less "sensitive" (more "attuned"?) to hearing wind noise than other folks are...at least that's pretty much what the service manager at my dealer told me. IOW--he might as well had told me that it's perhaps because other people's hearing isn't probably as sharp as mine...
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Another way for them to offer the above "explanation" is by saying that other folks perhaps are a bit more/less "sensitive" (more "attuned"?) to hearing wind noise than other folks are...at least that's pretty much what the service manager at my dealer told me. IOW--he might as well had told me that it's perhaps because other people's hearing isn't probably as sharp as mine...
Here is what they do not realize, if they can and do rename it buffeting then they can hear it themselves, no? So are their ears too sensitive too
Seems they are pulling some of that type of nonsense on our LS owning members, they won't fall for it anymore than ES owners with this issue.
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I found these from a site posted by Car Chat monitor,
for those with wind noise from window areas...
or knocking tapping sound
get ready to :
that in over 10 months we don't have one for our own
Wind noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-004.htm
Tapping noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-007.htm
for those with wind noise from window areas...
or knocking tapping sound
get ready to :
that in over 10 months we don't have one for our own
Wind noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-004.htm
Tapping noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-007.htm
#38
I found these from a site posted by Car Chat monitor,
for those with wind noise from window areas...
or knocking tapping sound
get ready to :
that in over 10 months we don't have one for our own
Wind noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-004.htm
Tapping noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-007.htm
for those with wind noise from window areas...
or knocking tapping sound
get ready to :
that in over 10 months we don't have one for our own
Wind noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-004.htm
Tapping noise TSIB
http://www.infinitihelp.com/Ownershi.../ITB07-007.htm
#39
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yeah, some cars have worse wind noise, like my current loaner.
on my own car, the wind noise is slight, and when going 80mph on the freeway, the road/tire noise drowns out the wind noise almost completely.
on my own car, the wind noise is slight, and when going 80mph on the freeway, the road/tire noise drowns out the wind noise almost completely.
#40
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The wind noise is all over the map from car to car as is engine noise level.
Looks like Infiniti takes such issues seriously in a redesigned or augmented model, does not tell people it's normal or rename it buffeting or tell people they have sensitive hearing.
The Infiniti wind noise diagram looks like a Club Lexus member team effort, combination of Wanderer and my own, that of other's, gasket effort plus additional work description static gave of going into door panel by his dealer taking initiative. Our members really could come up with a solution and a TSIB for this with access to one we could take apart under controlled setting.
Solving knocking or tapping noise and getting rid of it speaks for itself in comparison to being left with it claimed normal.
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Relentless wind noise
I've had most of the rattles removed and the car is starting to feel a little more Lexus-like. I have been told that a fix for the diesel noise at start up is in the works and that only those who have complained seriously will get it as it's very expensive to fix. The wind noise is another story. Yesterday, on the way to ski hill, a buddy remarked how smooth the ride is and the only problem is all the wind noise around the side windows. I still cannot imagine that others don't have it. My neighbor next door just got an LS460. He said he loves it. I asked him is there is anything he doesn't like. He said there is more wind noise than his LS430 especially around the door-mounted mirrors. He also said there is a ticking when you first start the car. This car in Canada was over $100,000 with all the taxes. Lexus is losing it.
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I've had most of the rattles removed and the car is starting to feel a little more Lexus-like. I have been told that a fix for the diesel noise at start up is in the works and that only those who have complained seriously will get it as it's very expensive to fix. The wind noise is another story. Yesterday, on the way to ski hill, a buddy remarked how smooth the ride is and the only problem is all the wind noise around the side windows. I still cannot imagine that others don't have it. My neighbor next door just got an LS460. He said he loves it. I asked him is there is anything he doesn't like. He said there is more wind noise than his LS430 especially around the door-mounted mirrors. He also said there is a ticking when you first start the car. This car in Canada was over $100,000 with all the taxes. Lexus is losing it.
who told you about the diesel noise fix in the works?
If it is true that they'd only give the fix discriminatingly, then I love how lexus is covering its ***. I wonder what "complain seriously" means..... make you scream and shout and do the chicken dance?
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Just to try to keep topics within topics on topic
LS460 owners get an answer from Lexus Corp on their Wind Noise issues
LS460 owners get an answer from Lexus Corp on their Wind Noise issues
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To revive an old thread....
I've been working to resolve wind noise on my 2008 ES, and have found that most (all?) of the noise is from leaks around the window glass. I put 1/8 inch weatherstrip under the window run (as outlined in this thread as the "shims"), along the top of the window and down the B pillar, and it made a HUGE difference, changing the noise from more of a roar to a rustle even at speed. I also had to install missing plugs under the car. With all these complete, the car is almost silent at highway speeds.
I've been working to resolve wind noise on my 2008 ES, and have found that most (all?) of the noise is from leaks around the window glass. I put 1/8 inch weatherstrip under the window run (as outlined in this thread as the "shims"), along the top of the window and down the B pillar, and it made a HUGE difference, changing the noise from more of a roar to a rustle even at speed. I also had to install missing plugs under the car. With all these complete, the car is almost silent at highway speeds.