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Old 08-04-15, 07:24 PM
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Default All aluminum radiator

I'd like to find an all aluminum radiator for our 96 es300. I've already replaced OEM one that was leaking and now replacement one is leaking as well.
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I had a double stack Koyo one in my 96 Integra, but I dont see an All Aluminum one for the Camry/ES.

They are both aluminum core with plastic tanks, other likely suspect mishimoto, doesn't seem to make one either.

If someone finds an all aluminum one I'd like to know too.
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I got mine from Autozone with a lifetime warranty. 5 years later still working. Replaced Mom's LX450 radiator 3 years ago still working.

There is a local shop that replaces the gasket for dirt cheap. I asked about an all aluminum one, they have not seen one.
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found this post.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-radiator.html

looks like it's a 2 row with Trans oil cooler, but for an 02 solara, no clue what's needed to make it fit.

this is the ebay listing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130969396831...649&rmvSB=true
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woooah hold up a second. why are they leaking ?

Even aftermarket one's are press fitted, which is totally fine. If the operating pressure falls within the specifications of a normal engine. Something's wrong here, it's not the radiators, why are they being over pressurized, I bet there's a 'slight' headgasket issue, I bet it's not bad enough to cause massive over heating, but bad enough to stress the system.

If you install an allow radiator, the problem will just shift, likely to hoses.
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I saw one for 92-93 es300 on ebay, lower radiator hose outlet is on the opposite side vs 96 es300 and Im not sure about mounting holes for fan and radiator itself.
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Well, in a pinch you could re-weld a new inlet or re-locate at a good radiator shop.

I know my guy does it. He fixed my buddies and my aluminum condensers for our 911's that everyone told us could not be done. 5 years later still working perfectly.
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Originally Posted by 808mcv20l
found this post.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-radiator.html

looks like it's a 2 row with Trans oil cooler, but for an 02 solara, no clue what's needed to make it fit.

this is the ebay listing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130969396831...649&rmvSB=true
I got this radiator for my car but I had to do some cutting and grinding to the corners of the radiator support to make it sit properly, and also some fabricating to mount the fans.
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Originally Posted by ES300NZ
woooah hold up a second. why are they leaking ?

Even aftermarket one's are press fitted, which is totally fine. If the operating pressure falls within the specifications of a normal engine. Something's wrong here, it's not the radiators, why are they being over pressurized, I bet there's a 'slight' headgasket issue, I bet it's not bad enough to cause massive over heating, but bad enough to stress the system.

If you install an allow radiator, the problem will just shift, likely to hoses.
They start leaking where plastic is glued to aluminum core, very common. Way cheaper to manufacture them this way.
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I was wondering how hard would it to make this one fit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TO3010276-TO...0b3581&vxp=mtr
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Originally Posted by mitmaks
They start leaking where plastic is glued to aluminum core, very common. Way cheaper to manufacture them this way.
in so far as this design is concerned, there's no glue involved (*facepalm* why would they do that!)



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here, this might help illustrate my point that there's no glue.


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I don't care if there is glue or not. Point is-radiator is leaking cause of poor 2 piece design. I would think it wouldn't be so leak prone with some sort of epoxy holding plastic to aluminum core and then crimped.
However I'm still looking for ALL aluminum radiator.
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My point is, .. the radiators you've replaced likely failed because there is a problem you haven't considered.

You've got it into your head that "it's a design fault" , w

when in fact, there could well be another issue, like a stuck thermo, cracked head, leaking headgasket.

Of course I could be wrong, but I think you are being single minded, which tells me you have not even looked into other possibilities.

I'm actually trying to help you.
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You can replace the gaskets that go between the core and upper and lower tank ends. The price and effort involved generally doesn't make it worth the time but I don't see it as a defective design the originals can and do last 20+ years if you keep good coolant in the system.

Some of the early ES300's had all metal tanks BTW.


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