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Old 02-03-08, 05:57 PM
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I changed the knock sensors for the first time (it's a 92 ES300). I didn't know that I didn't need to remove the timing cover and pulley. I removed the pulley WITHOUT setting the crank to zero. I remembered this after I put everything back together and the car had problems starting. After a several turns, it starts but it sputters for awhile and shuts off.

Question: How do I set the timing now, after what happened in the above referenced?

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Set the crank back to 0 now. See if the cams are off. The 3vz dosent have any timing marks for the crank for whatever reason, but the crank timing sprocket can only go on one way. The key way holds it in place. But i cant tell if you are talking about the crank pulley, or the crank timing sprocket.
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BTW are all the fuel lines reconnected? Did you plug the airflow meter back in? Im trying to think about this..... Why did you remove the timing cover to change the knock sensors?
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I realized that the decision to remove the cover was a stupid one. When the lower intake wouldn't come off, I thought something behind the cover was preventing it from coming off. It wasn't until after the fact that I noticed that the two have nothing to do with each other. All of the fuel lines are connected as they should as well as the MAF. I'll double check everything again.

I replaced the upper and the lower intake manifold gaskets while I was in there, since they worned out. However, I re-used the o-rings for the fuel lines, meaning the two lines that are on the cam side and the single fuel line that is on the distributor side. That's not going to be a problem in the long run is it?

Now for the timing problem: After I turn the crank to 0 degrees, how do I set the cam sprockets back to the correct spot if they are off? So, the crank has to be at 0 degrees and both cam sprockets must be ligned up to the marks right?
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bring the crank to tdc check to see if the cams are aligned or close if they are way off turn the crank 1 revolution as the crank has to turn 2 times for the cams to make a complete revolution... if they are close then remove the belt and tensioner and re-align the cam pulleys... start with the front cam and you may have to rotate it a little toward the crank (clockwise) no more than a belt notch then roll it back toward the mark th see if the mark is on then the same with the rear cam you will want all the slack behind the rear cam for the tensioner to take up... the tensioner must be compressed with a big vise or a press and a small allen wrench inserted into it to allow a easy install of the belt or you will have a fight to align everything...dont forget to remove the allen after installing tensioner

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I understand. I'll do that tomorrow.

What about this:> "I replaced the upper and the lower intake manifold gaskets while I was in there, since they worned out. However, I re-used the o-rings for the fuel lines, meaning the two lines that are on the cam side and the single fuel line that is on the distributor side. That's not going to be a problem in the long run is it? Should I change them or leave them alone?"
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I re-used mine and it has been fine...
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Originally Posted by esucaris1
I re-used mine and it has been fine...
Thanks, just making sure.
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I set the timing today and the car is back up and running, althoug it was a litle tricky getting the two cam sprockets to line up with the belt in the proper place.

Thanks for the help
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