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Old 06-22-05, 07:44 PM
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Hi everyone,

Today I went by one of the local shops, Minute Muffler, regarding a hole in my exhaust and what they found was the front pipe and the muffler needing to be replaced.

I had a look and it seems that the "front pipe" is the thing covered by the metallic mesh on the part of the exhaust that loops up towards the engine, heard something about a clamp so maybe that's what it is. Also the muffler seems to have a hole right where it attaches to the main pipe (is that what that long pipe is called?).

So I'm guessing I should probably shop around since the quote he gave me was about $800 Cdn and then tax has to be added on top of that. I'm sure the parts and labor can be had cheaper. I think he quoted about $200 Cdn for labor.

What's your take on this? Is it vital to get it fixed right now? People have told me that the car sounds like a lawn mower and that which doesn't bother me much but is there any ill effects of leaving it a little loud like that?

I finish my exams next week and then go for grad (done high school ) and then I'll be able to take care of this. I'm thinking of hitting up other local muffler shops and even the local Toyota dealership because at this price hopefully the Toyota dealership can give me a better quote. Parts should be the same as the Camry eh?

Maybe anyone can show me some sweet aftermarket systems to hook up..?

Thanks.
Old 06-23-05, 06:56 AM
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if ur going to spend that much money, i;d suggest goin with an aftermarket company that provides a bolt on kit...around here u can get a replacement OEM style muffler and piping done for no more than $250 US, which is still steep if u ask me
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The stock Toyota pipe is extremely overpriced.
Bosal makes a replacement y-pipe in the OEM style, but it's not performance oriented.
I suggest you go to some exhaust shops and get some quotes on a new one. There is a lot of performance to be had in the y-pipe. More combined with a high-flow cat. You can make more power with just a y-pipe than you can a cat-back, CAI, and headers.

Typical cost is $250-350usd. Normally $300-$350usd. They nearly have a stroke when they get the car up and look at the y-pipe. Haaaaard to work on.



Yes, same parts as a Camry.
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anyone have a picture of the y-pipe uninstalled ? or a schematic. im curious as to the size of the piece.
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=167961
You can see my new one.





























It something like that.
Stock down pipes are 1 3/4" ID. The merge is only 2 1/4" ID. The flat section is 2 1/4" wide, but only 1 1/2" tall. Toyota puts a fluted plate to help redirect the backwards flowing rear head the correct direction.
It's horrible.
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just a thought. if i have a crack on this Y pipe.. do i get this really LOUD sound ?? and also lost power?? cuz that's what happending to my car..
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Lost power, no.
The only time exhaust leaks will cost you power is when you're exhaust is driving a turbo.

The larger the hole the louder it is. With just a crack, I would call it louder than stock, but not flat out loud.
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Originally Posted by 1993ES300x
just a thought. if i have a crack on this Y pipe.. do i get this really LOUD sound ?? and also lost power?? cuz that's what happending to my car..
99% you probably have a tear in the flex section. Thats the parts that makes contact with the ground anytime you bottom out. You have to replace the entire y-pipe pretty much in that case.
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Yeah the flex part seems to be the place I have the sound coming from and the metallic mesh is like ripped apart at the area.

That part posted is exactly it.

So you guys are saying that I should buy the stock Toyota part to replace this?

Edit: And you were saying about bottoming out causing that area to tear? After some guys repaired the curb in front of my apartment, whenever I go over it while people are sitting in the back, the bottom always scrapes unless I go really slowly and possibly sideways (which I've gotten used to when entering over the slopes curb).

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Old 06-25-05, 09:43 AM
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I'm not saying that.
It's overpriced and a POS. For less than the cost of the OEM replacement you can get a custom Y pipe made and get 10-15hp out of it. Maybe 20 with a high-flow (or no) cat.



Even if you don't like performance, you'll have it if you need it, and gas mileage will be up.
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Ok. Sorry I didn't quite get your first post on your take on this.

So custom Y-pipe could yield so much power? Would the engine be able to take the extra power? I read that it has paper thin something so a turbo wouldn't be too good but I'm guessing this is only a little extra power but it sounds good.

Hmm... so I should shop around now I guess and get quotes on a custom y-pipe?

Thanks.
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