MSMLexIS

I know in 92-93 There wa a manual es300 any on the board.

DaveGS4

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Yes there are a few of them here. I believe 1sicklex has one.

I used to have (before I bought my GS) a 92 Camry SE v6 with the stick.

1993ES300x

is it true that the manual ES has a few extra Horses than the automatics??

Pheonix

No.
All 92-93 3vz-fe's (that's worldwide... JDM/Asian, Australian, Federal emession, CA emession)
are 185hp 199lb-ft.
In area's where the 3vz-fe was not replaced by the 1mz-fe (That's JDM, australia, and asian markets) 94+ 3vz-fe's make 200hp, 200lb-ft. <- that was achived by higher ignition and learner fuel tuning.

The only mechanical differance in any 3vz-fe is JDM 3vz-fe's have no EGR port in their manifold, or the space for the controls on the upper intake.

The only differance I can think of between an ES / Windom 3vz-fe, and a Camry 3vz-fe is that the Camry doesn't have the oil pressure sensor installed.


The M/T's are able to reach a higher speed because:
1) they don't have a roughly 22% drivetrain loss
2) they have shorter gearing

MSMLexIS

Are there any other differences in the manual ES300 and was there ever an manual ES250.

mcelligott

I have one. No real differences besdies the transmission size. It was way easier for me to run a down pipe and manifold for my turbo on an MT. AT is way too big to run the setup I have to clear it.

amf1932

Yes........Lexus ES250's were available with a 5 speed manual transmission, but they are very rare.

MSMLexIS

Any body got any pics of the interior of an es250 or es300 manual.

LexFather

The factory shift **** is leather, I have a Momo wood/leather **** that matches the wood perfectly,. If you want more pics, I can take them

MSMLexIS

Sweet i wonder what made lexus put a stick in the es. And i wonder how many were made.

LexFather

Good question about the # being made, not totally sure.

When the ES debuted, it was markets as a luxury sports sedan. I still got the brochures. It even was an Automobile pick one year. But it was still soft and most people that bought it did for the luxury, not the sport. Thus manual ESs stayed on dealer lots. By 1994, Lexus saw no market for it and when the ES got revised with the aluminum engine (3 more hp too) in 1995, they dropped the manual.

In retrospect, it was a good move. The ES is now the entry luxo king and if you want sport the IS 300 manual would run rings around my car stock for stock.

Pheonix

Because it was a Camry option.
The North American market numbers for the 92-93 M/T ES is known (It's somewhere on this board if you search, less than 600 I remember).

The E153 the Camry/ES used has different gearing, than the MR2/Celica did, the shifter and connections are also on the opposite side of the transmission. However they are a direct swap, and Toyota did offer the Solara with the same E153 (with a few minor syncro upgrades, added on to the '93 synchro upgrades).

Supply & Demand. There was no demand for either a coupe, or M/T, so they got axed. I don't know why I am rambling... But the '93 Camry was the end of the Coupe, with it went the v6 FWD E153 for the most part. (Obviously the Coupe came back with the Solara)

But you can do the swap.

I think the 1mz was a bad idea. It was far more expencive to produce, more nagging problems, and has weaker parts in it. Disagree? It wasn't the world-wide Toyota camry v6 until early-mid 1997.

MSMLexIS

Yeah i remember the camry with the 5sp and v6 in 92-94. As a kid i thoguht why doesnt lexus do that to make the es faster and last year i found out they did. I guesss they were tring to compete with the 3 series.

flipside909

1994 was the first year the Camry Coupe was introduced and lasted the duration of the Gen 3 SXV10 and MCV10 chassis. 96 was the end of the Coupe. All V6 model MCV10's starting in 94 during the traditional 3rd production year Toyota engine/tranny update were 4spd ect-i Auto ONLY. The only Manual coupes were a handfull w/the 5S-FE I-4 only. The Solara started in 99 and did come w/a manual option up to 2002 only for the MCV20 chassis. I have a rare 99 Solara SE V6 Manual. 92-93 3VZ VCV10 were the first two years of the Gen 3 Camry/Gen 2 ES to offer a manual option for the 3VZ-FE V6.

1MZ-FE was a great engine for what it was. It was powerful at the time in it's respective class, it was the first engine in the world ever to meet OBDII standards, it got great gas mileage. So what if it wasn't a world wide engine until 97? Probably you meant to say the 1MZ-FE wasn't widely used on other chassis forms. The Windom got the 1MZ-FE and 2MZ-FE in 94 just like it did in the US and other markets. 1MZ-FE was also found in the US made Avalon aka Pronard in Japan since 95. Weaker parts? In terms of boost, the rods of the 1MZ-FE are as thick as your pinky finger. So it's not so great of a candidate stock form or high boost for that matter. The 1MZ-FE was far more fuel efficient and had more torque than the 3VZ-FE.

flipside909

3VZ-FE 185hp 195 ft/lb torque

In area's where the 3vz-fe was not replaced by the 1mz-fe (That's JDM, australia, and asian markets) 94+ 3vz-fe's make 200hp, 200lb-ft. <- that was achived by higher ignition and learner fuel tuning.[/quote]

94-96 1MZ-FE 188hp 203ft/lb MCV10
97-01 1MZ-FE 194hp 214ft/lb MCV20 - Camry
97-01 1MZ-FE 200hp 214ft/lb MCV20 - ES/Solara/Avalon

Correct, same w/the 1MZ and newer. Japan does not have emission system requirements that North American vehicles have.