ramsee1

So in my quest for performance mods I came across this website spriralmax.com It's supposed to be bolt on horsepower... sounds too good to be true though. I've never heard of adding 30-40 horses for under 100 bucks. Thoughts/ideas anyone?

RealMarty

Never heard of it before. And it just doesn't seem reasonable to me to add what looks like a non-moving fan blade to the air intake and get a power increase.

They claim:
Typical range of improvement over baseline is:
0 to 35 increase in horsepower,
0 to 31.85% increase in fuel economy.

So, if you achieve no gain it's in the typical range. Feels like a scam to me.

"If it sounds too good to be true it probably is."

ramsee1

you make a good point, Marty that 0 is in their acceptable range. They do offer a money back guarantee however. I would guess once the car is moving, the fans would function much like that of a pinwheel. I am skeptical as well but if someone came to me and said hey this metal intake pipe will give you 7 more horsepower and no one had one yet I would be skeptical to that as well. Would anyone spend 80 dollars to find out???

ramsee1

just went to flipside909's website... they don't recommend it!

RealMarty

What, where is flipside909's website? Never heard of it.

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flyguy

Haha...yeah thats a scam. Im in a club for explorers and we have been meaning to get one of these to report the power losses using them. All they can possibly do it restrict airflow to the engine. Plus... if its not a supercharger or a turbo, you wont see anything close to 30% increase with ANY mod.

nick

ramsee1

flyguy... you should give the guy a call... he's funny. I talked to an "investor" of spiral max. He recommended for the ES that I put four of them in my intake for maximum h.p. gain. teee heeeee (laughing maniacally as the world finds out this thing really works)

L_Sport

This looks stupid, I wonder if those propeller tow hitch covers you see on the back of those Chevy trucks add horsepower too. Oh yah and if you put on the spiralmax decal on your window you are guaranteed 5 more hp! Well check it out, if you want true horsepower you have to pay for it, we all know that. Check out the E-ram! Its the same idea done way before this web site and it's done the right way, it is an electrically controlled turbine the spins to let airflow threw your intake when not in use, the kicks on when you punch the gas. I has been proven to drop up too 2psi. in your intake, this is like a super charger just on a smaller cheaper level, I have heard or people staking them and getting higher psi. drops. The only thing is that it doesn't fit on the ES300, there is not enough room for it. Although I have bought one already and I am in the process of adapting my AC2I intake for it, I’m thinking of putting it in the lower bumper, because the intake I have a massive 4in pipe that tapers to a three inch all the way to my sealed intake cone filter that connects to my air flow censer. I’m going to post some pics of it, when I take my rim off and take of the under-molding and start working on the E-ram addition to the AC2I. I'll let you know how it goes.

L_Sport

http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

flyguy

Ah...the e-ram. Ive also seen these in action. They dont do much. Although they are not really a scam.. they just dont come close to any performance gains thehy suggest. Good luck with it though... do a dyno run before and after and get some real numbers on it!

nick

flyguy

Check this guy out, who bought one of the e-ram's
http://home.att.net/~t.vago/eram-waste-howto.html

Also... you might notice that on the website it only works at WOT after 3000rmp. Which doesnt give you a whole lot of boost of the line. Hmm... oh well. Hey... do any of you know if TRD makes a supercharger for the ES300? Ive read several places that they do, but havent actually seen it listed by TRD themselves.

nick

ramsee1

L-sport thanks for the info, I will be sure to check it out. I would love to see pictures as well. Is the intake you added your own custom or is it sold? I am looking for something similar.

flyguy- I haven't seen any s.c. for the ES. It seems all are for camry... ES gets the old screwjob again. I know it's supposed to be a luxury sedan but come on.... camry gets all this cool stuff?!
As for the product L-sport mentioned.... most of the things involving intake it seems only kick in on high rpm, not from a standstill.

Foiled again. Ramsee1

flyguy

Does any of the camrys share the es300 engine? Do a search on the web. I use google... and I saw a few sites that mention a TRD supercharger for the es300. From what I hear, the TRD superchargers are cheap too. If they exsist, Im goin for it.

nick

ramsee1

I'll do the search. I contacted trd directly and they said no dice. But that doesn't mean something isn't out there. As far as I can tell a new s.c. installed would be close to 3,500-4000 installed. I think I saw the camry model going for about 2,800 just for the unit.