EGainer

heres my speedo at 129

ive hit 136 in my car, and i got scared. i still had a little further to go before redline, and ive never hit the limiter in the lex.

sean mcelligott can do 145 im sure, and he doesnt have a problem doing it either since he can beat a wrx from a 45mph roll or from a stop.

btw, on my many runs above 130, i had stock wheels and stock tires.

i also know there are a few sc400s on here than can out-do the numbers on their speedometer without a problem.

Toysrme

Haha your needle was burned out too. =) FYI I wasn't exaggerating about the '87 Ford. It's the fastest thing I've ever been in. (It's one of my best friend's new uncle's work truck. He uses that to haul his race car LoL!)

flipside909

Okay you point out two things.

1) Tires...Lexus put tires with the appropriate tires for the appropriate car. H rated tires were suited for the suspension and handling for the vehicle since it is a family entry level luxury sedan. Not a performance handling sports car. If that were the case, you would see aggressive Z rated tires and a not so sloppy suspension.

2) Speed limiters are put on there for a reason. So idiots don't go faster than the recommended factory ratings and sue Lexus and the tire manufacturer for malfunction of the tire for a blowout hence causing an catastrophic accident.

Now, do you really believe everything you read here? It's only obivous you do. 145 in a ES 3VZ...prove it. I'm sure the ES can go near 150 if it had the proper tires and no limiter...but there are RPM fuel cut and speed governers to stop you from maxing the car out gear and engine wise. Those two points you care to mention are just a factor of why those things are done. You don't see the big picture obviously. You only talk from what you read on the forums.

flipside909

Just because he can do 145 doesn't necessarily equate to beaing a WRX from 45 roll or a stop. Unless you have actual radar numbers or even electronic digital numbers to show, I doubt he was going 145 simply because his needle buried past the 140 mark on the speedo. Just beacuse you do that doesn't mean you can estimate what you're going after the needle. The speedo has a margin of error, the faster you go, it's usually showing a larger margin of error than the regular cruising speeds.That's the biggest misconception people have. When they see their needle go past the printed speed readings, they estimate how fast they're going after that. You can assume what you're going but that's not what you're actually doing.

I guarantee you any car with a good amount of torque can beat a WRX from a roll. I can do this since the WRX has no low end torque to keep up with the momentum. I can attest to this because I walked away from a lightly modded WRX manual on the freeway going 60 and hit 135 in my IS. He finally caught up after I slowed down...but I was already 3 carlengths ahead of him. This is from a stock 04 IS300 with Z rated tires. Alot of this can be attributed to my low end torque and transmission gear ratios. The 2JZ's tranny gear ratios are a little high considering it's at 3k rpm range at about 75mph. But this allows the IS to stay in the fatter part of the powerband for power. That's why the IS excels in mid range rolling runs rather than 0-60.

flipside909

Wow! Not bad for remedial English with a caption. Here ya go!

flipspeed

flipside909

Nice photoshop job. lol

Faraaz23

Are the 00-01 with 210hp any quicker than 8.3?? Are the torque the same on those years as previous or did VVTi up that too?

flipside909

No. The only difference VVT-i made for the 00-01 ES didn't do much difference for torque and hp. The 99-01 actually had the similar times. The 97-98 1MZ-FE non VVT-i was actually faster than the 99-01 versions w/vvti.

MCV20

interesting... i was wonder why 97-98(200hp) was faster than 99-01(210hp)..what other things is different other than the VVTI..

I DOGG

Well my car can go faster then your car can.
I go 140 to 150 all day long, so nanenanna.
LOL.

flipside909

The 97-98 Non VVT-i models were a little lighter (not by much) and older revisions and updates to emission controls and hardware. The VVT-i models were geared more for fuel efficiency numbers more than anything else.

flipside909

Sure you do. Perhaps in km/h but your car's speedo doesn't even go past 140...and i'm pretty sure it's never been past 135 despite what your speedo reads off of your aftermarket wheels and tires.

EGainer

flipside, i know sean can beat a wrx bc he has done it... many times, along with beating c4 corvettes

and yes they knew he was racing. they are his friends

i said he can get that fast quickly bc he CAN beat a wrx. his car has good high top end since his work he's done to it

flipspeed

how about having a video of the wrx doing 150 and the es passing it?