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Old 09-28-10, 09:48 AM   #1
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Default Higher Performance, More Efficient Lexus CT200h Models Coming

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Lexus is taking a close look at even more efficient versions of its new CT200h premium compact hybrid, while hinting that a high-performance version of the car is in the works.

During a product presentation of the CT200h at the car’s global launch just outside Paris, France, Lexus College manager Paul Williamsen went out of his way to point out that the current battery pack located in the rear of the CT doesn’t take up all of the space. The larger area, “could ‘theoretically’ be used to put a larger battery pack with increased capacity,” he said.

This news coincides with previous reports that Lexus has also filed for patents on the CT300h and CT400h names.

Currently the CT uses a hybrid powertrain similar to that found in the Prius, making 134-hp and delivering a 0-60 mph time of 9.8 seconds.

In addition, Osamu Sadakata, Chief engineer for Lexus hybrid vehicles told media present that both a plug-in hybrid version of the CT200h as well as a version using a more efficient and compact lithium-ion battery pack are possible. Sadakata said the shift to lithium-ion battery technology is, “the way of the future” and that a Li-On CT is “technically possible,” but stopped short of confirming a CT using the more advanced technology.

As for a plug-in CT, following after the plug-in Prius, Sadakata said that it would depend on market demand, both for the system and for the CT in general. “If we have the demand, as Chief engineer, I could like to bring it to market as soon as possible.”
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CT200h Getting F-Sport Performance Goodies
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Lexus Expects CT200h to Spark Significant Growth in Compact Premium Segment
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...m-segment.html
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Old 09-28-10, 10:30 AM   #2
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Well a lot of people called the more powerful CT's coming but didn't think we though more efficient ones were coming.

I hope this signals Lexus really continuing to diversify individual lineups with multiple engine, drivetrain, sport choices.

Great news!
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I have been saying this but probably never going to happen.

CT350 6 speed stick with AWD. That would be a winner.
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^I agree. Even putting the IS250's 2.5L V6 into this little car would give it considerable grunt and make it fun to drive.
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Only makes sense to add a plug-in version since the Prius will in a couple years. F-sport sounds pretty damn cool. And IMO, I think they can meet their goal of 12,000 cars a year here.
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^I agree. Even putting the IS250's 2.5L V6 into this little car would give it considerable grunt and make it fun to drive.
anything less than 300hps doesn't translate to fun in my book. you can give me an argument about Miata and such but Power is everything and you know it.
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Whats odd is 250h is not in the cards...only 300h and 400h. No way they are going to use the old 3.3 V-6 in the last 400h so what will they use in the vehicle?

I HOPE they can fit AWD in but damn, hybrid and AWD=40k plus hatch...sigh...
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I love that yellow/gold on in the pic.

I think this is a great idea. Having multiple engine variants and sport/efficiency variants for the CT makes a lot of sense. That will make the CT more popular and lead to more sales.

For this to work, they'll have to possibly get rid of the HS or get rid of it entirely. They will also have to move the IS a little upmarket IMHO.

Also these CT variants would have to be priced right.
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Good move. Li-ion batteries may be too expensive for a Prius, but for the premium-branded CT it can likely be justified.
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When they talk about taking up more space in the rear for a larger battery pack, are they talking about sacrificing cargo space? I love the idea, but I don't know if there will be much demand for a hatch/miniwagon/whatever that doesn't have any cargo space if that's what they are thinking. Hopefully I'm wrong about this, because this is an intriguing vehicle for me.
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I HOPE they can fit AWD in but damn, hybrid and AWD=40k plus hatch...sigh...
Yes, that would be no bueno... $40k and I think this car may quickly price itself out of it's market.
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I HOPE they can fit AWD in but damn, hybrid and AWD=40k plus hatch...sigh...
Sorry but I fail to see how you came up with this $40k figure. The pricing of the RX450h FWD and RX450h AWD differ only by a mere $1,590 (and that's including a roof rail that's standard only on the AWD), so with the expected base price of the CT200h being no more than $30k, a CT200h AWD should cost well below $32k.

On the other hand, the A3 TDI isn't available with AWD either (in the US at least), so it's likely that even at $32k it's too much for a small hatch according to their market study.

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And IMO, I think they can meet their goal of 12,000 cars a year here.

is that really their goal?

i think they should lower it to 8000.
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That is a realistic and achievable goal IMO, especially if they will introduce additional CT variants.
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That is a realistic and achievable goal IMO, especially if they will introduce additional CT variants.

in japan and europe maybe. But i doubt it in the US
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