PPE HEADERS for SC, LS and GS new design GB!
08-03-13, 08:16 AM
#361
@ Rollaboy thank for the pictures.
Can anyone share their experience for the SC430 having a shop install? Labor hours? Total cost? I plan on doing the motor mounts (from Megan) at the same time. Any other recommendations?
I have quotes between 14-16 hrs at $90-95/ hr ( normal in this area). Does that seem right?
Any comments about problems or complications during the install?
08-03-13, 11:02 AM
#363
I am ready to get my PPE headers installed.
@ Rollaboy thank for the pictures.
Can anyone share their experience for the SC430 having a shop install? Labor hours? Total cost? I plan on doing the motor mounts (from Megan) at the same time. Any other recommendations?
I have quotes between 14-16 hrs at $90-95/ hr ( normal in this area). Does that seem right?
Any comments about problems or complications during the install?
@ Rollaboy thank for the pictures.
Can anyone share their experience for the SC430 having a shop install? Labor hours? Total cost? I plan on doing the motor mounts (from Megan) at the same time. Any other recommendations?
I have quotes between 14-16 hrs at $90-95/ hr ( normal in this area). Does that seem right?
Any comments about problems or complications during the install?
08-03-13, 01:54 PM
#364
The book usually calls for engine removal which is not required. So if its a first time shop that is how they will quote it.
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08-19-13, 12:51 PM
#365
Headers were installed in about 12 hrs. Added 18whp. I will post dyno results in another thread. I'm back at the shop because the headers interfere with the steering column during a rt. hand turn above about 20 mph. The heat shield was totally remove - the binding is from the actual iron steering nuckle. The header pipe needs to be dimpled in that location and we will try grinding down a bit the sides of the knuckle.
Power and sound is great but not the steering - yet.
More later.
Power and sound is great but not the steering - yet.
More later.
09-07-13, 11:11 AM
#366
Steering nuckle rubbing on header fixed
I have been offline a bit and need to update my post. The problem is fixed after several iterations - I wasn't able to take pictures but it was the steering column nuckle that was rubbing on the driver side header with a right turn faster than 20mph. The right turn slightly pushes the engine over to the left side and causes the rubbing which doesn't let the wheel turn any more. With the install you cann't see that it will rub and the clearance looks good but with a turn at speed the gap goes away. The driver side header had clear rub marks on it.
The solution was to grind down the edges of the nuckle almost to a point where the shop wouldn't have gone further but we got it. I tested it on a track with fast turns and all good.
Note I had new Megan racing motor mounts installed with the headers and they are stiffer than oem.
So watch out for that issue with a new install. The corners on the nuckle need to be grinded off rounding it out.
The solution was to grind down the edges of the nuckle almost to a point where the shop wouldn't have gone further but we got it. I tested it on a track with fast turns and all good.
Note I had new Megan racing motor mounts installed with the headers and they are stiffer than oem.
So watch out for that issue with a new install. The corners on the nuckle need to be grinded off rounding it out.
09-07-13, 06:19 PM
#367
^^^^ Good info! I'm having the same issue on my 2GS. I need to grind some more or even try to round out the edges on the joint to see if it clears. Now I know my steering rack bushings are worn ( waiting on figs 
) and I thought maybe that was the cause of the rubbing but I think I'll give it a shot.
) and I thought maybe that was the cause of the rubbing but I think I'll give it a shot.
09-09-13, 09:14 AM
#369
^^^^ Good info! I'm having the same issue on my 2GS. I need to grind some more or even try to round out the edges on the joint to see if it clears. Now I know my steering rack bushings are worn ( waiting on figs ) and I thought maybe that was the cause of the rubbing but I think I'll give it a shot.
) and I thought maybe that was the cause of the rubbing but I think I'll give it a shot.worn bushings can add tremendous amounts of slop...25mm side to side.
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09-09-13, 11:50 AM
#370
How long will it take to put in the bushings? It seems like a lot of work if the rack has to come out. Also I don't really want to be ghetto rigging the steering ball joint for the header it seems really unsafe.
09-09-13, 01:01 PM
#371
they can be done on the car with the correct tools. Bushings were designed to be easily pressed in by a ball joint C-clamp style tool. The one from SPC works well on our website. Yes I would suggest doing things right. The headers are bent with the assumption of OK factory bushings. So this is one more thing to consider. It has to be this way because of how tight the fitment is.
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RB BBK's and 2P Rotors, G-Loc pads, Radium Fuel Systems
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-- We are your Lexus suspension experts--
BCR - KW - PENSKE - OHLINS - HKS - GREDDY - STANCEPARTS
Links - Arms - SuperPro Poly Bushings - Solid Bearing Conversions - Motor Mounts
RB BBK's and 2P Rotors, G-Loc pads, Radium Fuel Systems
Custom Fabrication Design and Machining - Industrial 3D Printing - Laser Cutting
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09-09-13, 03:17 PM
#372
I have been offline a bit and need to update my post. The problem is fixed after several iterations - I wasn't able to take pictures but it was the steering column nuckle that was rubbing on the driver side header with a right turn faster than 20mph. The right turn slightly pushes the engine over to the left side and causes the rubbing which doesn't let the wheel turn any more. With the install you cann't see that it will rub and the clearance looks good but with a turn at speed the gap goes away. The driver side header had clear rub marks on it.
The solution was to grind down the edges of the nuckle almost to a point where the shop wouldn't have gone further but we got it. I tested it on a track with fast turns and all good.
Note I had new Megan racing motor mounts installed with the headers and they are stiffer than oem.
So watch out for that issue with a new install. The corners on the nuckle need to be grinded off rounding it out.
The solution was to grind down the edges of the nuckle almost to a point where the shop wouldn't have gone further but we got it. I tested it on a track with fast turns and all good.
Note I had new Megan racing motor mounts installed with the headers and they are stiffer than oem.
So watch out for that issue with a new install. The corners on the nuckle need to be grinded off rounding it out.
09-09-13, 10:31 PM
#374
sorry it took a bit. This should help the GS and SC430 guys http://shopfigs.com/v1/LEXUS%20bushi...product_id=215
Thanks for taking the time to developed this set for us, looking forward to the install.
