RMI Scoops from ISS Forged MPG Increase.
01-13-12, 11:49 AM
#46
We were thinking of doing the MPG test in a controlled environment on a Mustang dyno. A road trip also has to many variables that will produce numbers that cant be duplicated. We have found a facility in FL that has the proper equipment to do the MPG test i.e. temperature controlled warehouse / mustang dyno / a fan that produces wind speeds that allow this simulation to be accurate. If anyone is asking why a mustang dyno, well the mustang dyno has a cool feature that allows the user to create load based on wind condition. This is key to properly run this kind of test.
Thanks for the info Cleo.
Janoy
Thanks for the info Cleo.
Janoy
You also quickly dismissed the idea of conducting real-world tests because of too many variables that may affect your results. Well, that's the point of real-world testing - to conduct it over and over again to come up with numerous data points. With those values, you can derive a reliable figure. That's how most, if not all, experiments are done. Your notion that the results of a real-world test can't be duplicated is incorrect, and it only implies claims made by you are doubtful.
Take it from me, if you truly stand behind your product, do the real-world tests and publish the results and its methodology. No one wants to buy another TORNADO gimmick.
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01-13-12, 01:17 PM
#47
I am not sure that this product was developed to be a MPG saver, but to get better airflow into the intake area. If the MPG increases then great, but is not used as a "GIMMICK" product to lower your MPG.
With your statement, no product on any car can use a DYNO for any numbers statement correct?
With your statement, no product on any car can use a DYNO for any numbers statement correct?
01-13-12, 01:50 PM
#48
I am not sure that this product was developed to be a MPG saver, but to get better airflow into the intake area. If the MPG increases then great, but is not used as a "GIMMICK" product to lower your MPG.
With your statement, no product on any car can use a DYNO for any numbers statement correct?
With your statement, no product on any car can use a DYNO for any numbers statement correct?
2. "Numbers statement?" I am strictly referring to calculating MPG. Please read my post again. I don't know how you came up with this conclusion either.
01-13-12, 02:24 PM
#49
A controlled experiment is the only thing that produces real numbers. The equipment we are going to use is the same ( maybe not the same brand ) that manufactures use to test their cars. There is no gimmick here... Like always we will produce real numbers and not over sell our product. If you disagree with our methods we will have to agree to disagree.
BTW: We dont make products to save fuel. We are looking for POWER and performance!!!!!! We are F drivers. We drive hard and burn lots of fuel and tires. The fact that this product saves fuel is a plus not a selling point.
Janoy
BTW: We dont make products to save fuel. We are looking for POWER and performance!!!!!! We are F drivers. We drive hard and burn lots of fuel and tires. The fact that this product saves fuel is a plus not a selling point.
Janoy
01-13-12, 02:53 PM
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This seems interesting. Very similar to the Stillen intakes for the G37 and 370Z crowd. Wonder if that is where the idea came from. With the Z and G, if the intake was the first mod, it typically gained between 14-16 WHP.
Can you tell us if any cutting will be needed to install? The G and Z's intake had to have a small hole cut in the front somewhere...
Can you tell us if any cutting will be needed to install? The G and Z's intake had to have a small hole cut in the front somewhere...
01-13-12, 03:30 PM
#51
A controlled experiment is the only thing that produces real numbers. The equipment we are going to use is the same ( maybe not the same brand ) that manufactures use to test their cars. There is no gimmick here... Like always we will produce real numbers and not over sell our product. If you disagree with our methods we will have to agree to disagree.
BTW: We dont make products to save fuel. We are looking for POWER and performance!!!!!! We are F drivers. We drive hard and burn lots of fuel and tires. The fact that this product saves fuel is a plus not a selling point.
Janoy
BTW: We dont make products to save fuel. We are looking for POWER and performance!!!!!! We are F drivers. We drive hard and burn lots of fuel and tires. The fact that this product saves fuel is a plus not a selling point.
Janoy
BTW, they are picking up 25-35 WHP with their ram air intakes on C6 corvettes. check the link below
http://www.vararam.com/
01-16-12, 03:49 PM
#55
If I understand your questions and I may not, they are ram air CAI's.
The idea is to locate the intake snorkel at a high pressure area at the front of the car and have a sealed unit to maintain the pressure to the throttle body. The faster the car is traveling the greater the intake pressure. The Vararam unit that I used on my C6 was rated a providing and additional 30 WHP. I can attest to the performance gains on an LS2 of .2 in a 1/4 mile other better drivers saw even greater gains.
The idea is to locate the intake snorkel at a high pressure area at the front of the car and have a sealed unit to maintain the pressure to the throttle body. The faster the car is traveling the greater the intake pressure. The Vararam unit that I used on my C6 was rated a providing and additional 30 WHP. I can attest to the performance gains on an LS2 of .2 in a 1/4 mile other better drivers saw even greater gains.
01-17-12, 11:29 AM
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Check the Vararam link I provided in an earlier post, and you will see a similar design to what they at ISS are trying to produce for our F's. If they are successful you will see similar gains to headers.
I'm in Cali and do not want to risk headers with our CARB regs. but will definitely use a ram air if it is available.
Gary
01-17-12, 11:52 AM
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Lou,
Check the Vararam link I provided in an earlier post, and you will see a similar design to what they at ISS are trying to produce for our F's. If they are successful you will see similar gains to headers.
I'm in Cali and do not want to risk headers with our CARB regs. but will definitely use a ram air if it is available.
Gary
Check the Vararam link I provided in an earlier post, and you will see a similar design to what they at ISS are trying to produce for our F's. If they are successful you will see similar gains to headers.
I'm in Cali and do not want to risk headers with our CARB regs. but will definitely use a ram air if it is available.
Gary
What I'm suggesting is like the product you mentioned, an actual ram air style intake that goes directly into the throttle body.
