bitkahuna

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front license plates cannot be justified just by a prisoner work program. they could make plenty of other more useful things. in my county they have prisoner farms and they grow and raise just about everything eaten in the jail. now that's a good idea.

front license plates cannot be justified at all because police cars almost always identify cars using the rear license plate.

mmarshall

Well, then, who else would you want to make them? I personally don't see where there is anything wrong with it. Prisoners need to be given something to do (besides the regular menial prison jobs like laundry, sweeping floors, etc...) to prepare them for an eventual return to society.



I've got no problem with that......but that doesn't mean that their making license plates is a bad idea.

While I can't speak for all of them, the majority of police departments seem to disagree.

http://www.insurance.com/auto-insura...se-plates.html

dseag2

I've never had a front plate in TX in my 10 years of living here. It is my understanding that you must be violating some other traffic law to get cited for not having a front plate. I got cited once for not having a front plate, and that was because I was speeding. As long as you are not breaking any other traffic laws, an officer will not stop you for having no front license plate. Besides, I would rather pay the fine than have one.

mmarshall

In legalspeak, that is the difference between a primary offense and a secondary one. A secondary offense means that a cop cannot write you up for something unless it is in conjunction with another, more serious issue. It used to be like that, in a number of states, with a texting device or hand-held cell-phone, though some of those states have now made it a primary offense.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

missing the point entirely, i don't think anyone should make front license plates because i don't think the world needs front license plates, and there's endless work prisoners could be given, so requiring front license plates is not justified just because it gives prisoners something to do.

that article doesn't say a majority of police, but if you mean the states other than the 19 that don't require front plates, then the article does say it's mostly a REVENUE issue (for automated tolls and ticketing) rather than a serious law enforcement issue. the article does say front plates help with automated systems in finding stolen cars, so ALL cars should have front license plates just to bolster the state coffers or because it helps find stolen cars? seriously weak argument.

nothing you can post or write will convince me that the eyesore of front plates if worth the hideous blemish and cost.

Fizzboy7

The purpose of front license plates has everything to do with safety. They were required to help authorities easier identify stolen cars or cars being sought for infractions. When you only have one plate on a car, you have half the chance of seeing the plate. When you have two plates on a car, you have double the chance of seeing the plate. Not every police officer is behind a car when trying to gain info. Not every camera is aimed at the rear of a car.

Now, all the same applies to you and I in every day living, but on a smaller scale. Say someone just dinged your door in a parking lot. You are a ways away, and aren't always going to be behind that car to catch the plate. A front plate comes in handy for all those situations, and in other similar "quick get-away" situations. It is for safety and for easier identifying. I rather have all these things working for me, since I am one of the good guys who don't steal cars or ding others. I don't want to give any possible leeway to a bad guy who does the infractions. Same goes for the police, who are trying their best to see a plate and identify a suspect as quick as possible. If that was your car stolen, you'd want everything in the police's power to be able to easily spot it out on the road.

One last reason for a front plate. They also act as a buffer between you and another car trying to park in front of you. A slight tap against a plate and frame will not do any damage to your bumper. A slight tap against your bare bumper will leave a mark, scratch, or worse. That alone has saved me many times over the decades, with disrespectful people using the "tap" feature to park.

Yes, it looks better with a smooth, clean front. But for something that has to do with safety, it matters.

mmarshall

Thanks, Fizzboy. An excellent post. You are spot-on.

bitkahuna

iTrader: (20)

why do 19 states not agree that it matters?

Coleroad

because for nineteen states saving money was more important to them. I remember when Michigan went to the single plate system. It was all about how many millions the state was going to save. While the fraternal order of police lobbied hard not to.

Aron9000

I also think some car designers should be taken out back and shot for how horrible their designs look with a front plate.

maxxteezy

Well I hope they do repeal it because I went to REAL JAIL in farmers branch, Tx over a front plate! No warrants at all. They were just *** hats cause I wouldn't let them search. I was not even IN MY CAR!!!! I was in the driveway. **** front plates and the cops. I got it all thrown out but 2 days in jail ain't worth a smooth bumper. Had an immaculate 750li and they hated it.

dseag2

To the OP, I sent the email.

mmarshall

I sympathise, at least to an extent, with those who like a clean front-end look to their cars.....I don't particularly care for front-plate mounts myself (and, to top it off, some jerk stole my front tag and its nice clear-plastic cover about a year ago....I had to go to DMV and pay for a new set of plates to replace it and re-register my car for a local military pass because I had new plates.... PITA). But, like it or not, front-plate laws exist for a reason...and it's not just to collect revenue. Besides, when one signs for his or her drivers' license, that is considered a privilege, not a right......and, with that privilege, goes the responsibility of obeying all applicable Federal/state/local laws)

Aron9000

^hahahahahaa You think people where there are no state inspections or emissions tests maintain their cars as well as places that do inspections???? I always make the joke that around here in TN only 5 or 6 counties make you do emissions testing, Davidson(which is Nashville), and the surrounding suburban counties. All the broke *** bubbas that drive 40 miles one way to work in Nashville(that don't live in the emissions testing counties) in their beat up trucks took the cat-converters off long ago when they failed. Or put a piece of black tape over that check engine light.

mmarshall

That doesn't change anything that I said, though. If there are no (applicable) inspection or emission laws (or front-license-plate requirements) in a state or county, then the owners of cars registered in those jurisdictions are not bound to follow them. You obviously can't follow what doesn't exist.