No love for Infiniti Q60?
02-12-17, 10:03 AM
#46
Lexus Champion
It's because the Q50 is a tweener car. It's big...more midsize than compact car. It's also cross shopped with the ES due to its size. The IS350 is probably the second smallest in its class...the ATS is smaller. I'm really happy with the size though. I think BMW went too big with the current 3 series 
02-12-17, 10:15 AM
#49
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by Och
Current 3 series is huge and bloated, its the size of old 5 series.
02-12-17, 10:52 AM
#50
Lexus Fanatic
I actually find the Q50 a very attractive car.
02-12-17, 11:53 AM
#51
Lead Lap
It's because the Q50 is a tweener car. It's big...more midsize than compact car. It's also cross shopped with the ES due to its size. The IS350 is probably the second smallest in its class...the ATS is smaller. I'm really happy with the size though. I think BMW went too big with the current 3 series
Length and width (w/o mirrors) for the cars you mentioned [as provided by Car and Driver]:
Lexus IS
Length: 183.7 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
BMW 3-series
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
Infiniti Q50
Length: 189.1 in.
Width: 71.8 in.
Cadillac ATS
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.1 in
And if the BMW was any smaller people would've been complaining about its interior size.
Uh...so the 3-series is huge and bloated but the IS isn't, even though they're the same size? And let's be real, the F30 is the same size as the E39 5-series from 2 generations (actually now 3). The gain in size is appropriate given the evolution of this class of cars.
02-12-17, 12:05 PM
#54
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by TangoRed
This forum is strange. The 3-series and IS are practically the same size (the 3-series is actually shorter!). Further, the ATS is essentially the same size as well. It just doesn't have as good of interior space utilization. It really isn't that hard to actually go look at the figures before spewing stuff like this.
Length and width (w/o mirrors) for the cars you mentioned [as provided by Car and Driver]:
Lexus IS
Length: 183.7 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
BMW 3-series
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
Infiniti Q50
Length: 189.1 in.
Width: 71.8 in.
Cadillac ATS
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.1 in
And if the BMW was any smaller people would've been complaining about its interior size.Oh you're completely right.Uh...so the 3-series is huge and bloated but the IS isn't, even though they're the same size? And let's be real, the F30 is the same size as the E39 5-series from 2 generations (actually now 3). The gain in size is appropriate given the evolution of this class of cars.
Length and width (w/o mirrors) for the cars you mentioned [as provided by Car and Driver]:
Lexus IS
Length: 183.7 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
BMW 3-series
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.3 in.
Infiniti Q50
Length: 189.1 in.
Width: 71.8 in.
Cadillac ATS
Length: 182.8 in.
Width: 71.1 in
And if the BMW was any smaller people would've been complaining about its interior size.Oh you're completely right.Uh...so the 3-series is huge and bloated but the IS isn't, even though they're the same size? And let's be real, the F30 is the same size as the E39 5-series from 2 generations (actually now 3). The gain in size is appropriate given the evolution of this class of cars.
02-12-17, 12:10 PM
#56
Forum Administrator
iTrader: (2)
I can't believe I keep having to post this, so I guess I have to up the game and start suspending access.
Knock off posting personal commentary, either directed at specific members, generically at 'some people' or via sweeping generalizations. Fine to disagree with the details posted you don't concur with, but not the people posting them. Those that posted those type of 'forum is strange' or 'some people here' comments, step back and read this thread top to bottom and I hope you will recognize it's overwhelming positive towards the Infiniti.
If you cannot stop the personal comments, do not post here. I will remind you THIS IS A LEXUS OWNERS AND LEXUS ENTHUSIAST FORUM. We didn't bury the lead... it's right there in the header and the URL. If you don't expect some bias towards Lexus and can't live with it, you're in the wrong place. We absolutely welcome alternative perspectives and fans of other brands especially in car chat... but if you are here simply to regularly put down our membership or the primary subject of our community then I will question your membership.
If you have any questions about my message here, send me a PM rather than take this thread off track. I apologize for a bit of a rant, but this same request seems like a daily occurrence.
Knock off posting personal commentary, either directed at specific members, generically at 'some people' or via sweeping generalizations. Fine to disagree with the details posted you don't concur with, but not the people posting them. Those that posted those type of 'forum is strange' or 'some people here' comments, step back and read this thread top to bottom and I hope you will recognize it's overwhelming positive towards the Infiniti.
If you cannot stop the personal comments, do not post here. I will remind you THIS IS A LEXUS OWNERS AND LEXUS ENTHUSIAST FORUM. We didn't bury the lead... it's right there in the header and the URL. If you don't expect some bias towards Lexus and can't live with it, you're in the wrong place. We absolutely welcome alternative perspectives and fans of other brands especially in car chat... but if you are here simply to regularly put down our membership or the primary subject of our community then I will question your membership.
If you have any questions about my message here, send me a PM rather than take this thread off track. I apologize for a bit of a rant, but this same request seems like a daily occurrence.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 02-12-17 at 12:26 PM.
02-12-17, 12:11 PM
#57
I did say they are about the same size but the BMW drives bigger. I also said the ATS was probably the smallest which it probably is. My opinion is that BMW made the 3 a little too big. I appreciated the prior class size more and especially how much better it drove. I guess I can't spew my opinion anymore around here
02-12-17, 12:14 PM
#58
Like EZZ, I wish cars grew smaller and lighter rather than larger and heavier. If the ND Miata can do it, why shouldn't other cars be able to?
02-12-17, 12:19 PM
#59
I'm also surprised. The IS looks smaller than the F3X whenever I park near one. Subjectively, the E9X drove better than the F3X which I would attribute towards BMW's attempt to cater towards the smooth ride luxury car-buyers want.
Like EZZ, I wish cars grew smaller and lighter rather than larger and heavier. If the ND Miata can do it, why shouldn't other cars be able to?
Like EZZ, I wish cars grew smaller and lighter rather than larger and heavier. If the ND Miata can do it, why shouldn't other cars be able to?
02-12-17, 01:25 PM
#60
Lexus Champion
Same thing around here. Most of them on the lots are x drives. Surprisingly In C&D's tests the 328i x drive was notably quicker than the IS 2.0t. 5.3 sec. vs. 6.5 sec. 0-60, and 14.0 @97 vs. 15.0 @94 in the 1/4 mile. They mention that the IS is about 100 lbs. heavier than the 328..
Last edited by LexBob2; 02-12-17 at 01:34 PM.