daryll40

I think we've chatted before about local Lexus stuff.

SW17LS

Yes indeedy. One thing you can do and should do also is contact Lexus and tell them how you didn't like Lexus Plus. That might help all of us.

mikha619

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Being a salesperson, i agree, but at the end of the day, i always explain that if they were happy with my service, then it would really help me if i got a passing score (100%) since the survey only and affects me personally and if there are any concerns, they can be voiced to me or taken to the public review sites. So if you are satisfied with your service, you could look at it as simply helping your sales person

rogerh00

I find it hard to believe their salary will be docked for a poor survey. Is there any proof of this? I was under the impression a good survey gives the salesperson points or whatever for some kind of bonus. I know a salesman that goes on cruise or vacation every year from his dealership.

I also find the coercion by the sales person that I need to give him all 10's or he will suffer, BS, and wish they would stop this practice especially at a Lexus dealership. I also get calls and emails for more coercion if you try to ignore the survey. Not a good experience for owning a luxury vehicle.

daryll40

Did that. A TOTAL waste of time. Got some lady who just parroted a script about how the dealerships are independently owned and they have nothing to do with it but she'd log my comments.

daryll40

+1. I completely agree this is annoying

SW17LS

First off, there's no salary typically. Salespeople are on commission. What it impacts is bonus payments, and their split of the profit the dealer makes on the sale. Dealerships use every negative thing they can against salespeople to cut down their commission splits. High survey marks and good track records for sales are the ammunition they have to demand better terms.

Darryl- oh well, at least you did what you can do.

Wandl

This information is outdated but when I bought a new 14 Accord from Autonation I got chummy with my sales rep. She said she makes $150 off each new Honda, x-amount if I bought accessories/warranties, another $100 if my customer survey came back positive and if she sold over 10 new Honda's the manufacturer would give her an extra $50/car that month.

Obviously this is dealer dependent and I'd like to assume Lexus, which is a lot more fanatical about customer satisfaction (comparatively to Honda) may have a bigger financial incentive to do so.

G Star

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Don't know why this needed a new thread but just call Lexus corporate, tell them their new program is not what you like and you will go to competing dealership with traditional bargaining practices. Also complain about how you felt.

daryll40

Did that. Corporate said flat out that their dealers are independent and they don't get involved. There are 2 dealers here, both with the same owner. I'll probably end up with another car brand versus the hassle of trading in a car via out of state dealers

G Star

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They will make a note that an actual buyer is choosing traditional vs pilot program, that at the end of the day that matters. The only way dealers will change is if they lose sales over it. So if you were uncomfortable with the buying experience in the first place, you shouldn't have bought from them, enabling their behavior.

rogerh00

Ok, what about the service reps? Every time I go to my dealership for service I get the same thing from them. Please give me all 10's or I will suffer! What is their stake in this terrible customer hassle.

SW17LS

Depends on the dealership, some dealers they are on commission also, usually part commission part salary.

rominl

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read post #6

mcomer

I liked the post that equated the survey mechanism with a free employee coaching
program. The "Pass/Fail" grading is absurd, 10 is Pass...9/8/7... is utter failure in
the eyes of the HQ office of standards. Good points made here also regarding who
the survey affects, it is the Salespersons and F & I managers name on the line.
Had a survey come back with preposterously low scores because the selection
on snacks available didn't meet the children's needs! The post that laid out the
salespersons pay plan was pretty typical. Used to be purely commission based
on profit (20% to 35% of $500 to $5000 = $100 to $1500 or more) but the current
marketing structure has reduced dealerships to slim pickins' and the percentages
would be below minimum wage.