MM Condensed-Review: 2017 Kia Cadenza
12-04-16, 12:12 AM
#46
having owned many cars, now I look through the badge and see what the car really is. For the same price I would get a nice optioned Kia than a stripped MB or Audi as well. Would I want a luxury brand? Sure, but I usually get the top model with options I want, cost is secondary.
12-04-16, 03:32 AM
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having owned many cars, now I look through the badge and see what the car really is. For the same price I would get a nice optioned Kia than a stripped MB or Audi as well. Would I want a luxury brand? Sure, but I usually get the top model with options I want, cost is secondary.
12-04-16, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
In terms of what you actually get for the money, there seems to be much less differentiation now between luxury and non-luxury vehicles today than there was decades ago. Even base-level econoboxes have many, if not most, of the features that many drivers want or need. When, for example, is the last time you saw a new vehicle in the U.S. with crank-up windows, manual push-button door locks, or an outside mirror without an adjustable motor? I think I've only seen one in the last two years......a 13K Mitsubishi Mirage. Even 3-pedal manual transmissions are becoming near-extinct on all but sports cars and (some) econoboxes.
12-04-16, 06:26 AM
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I've said it before and I will say it again, I don't find any of Toyota or Hondas current offerings as appealing as what is similar in each segment from Hyundai and Kia. While I agree people buy them because they're Hondas or Toyotas, I no longer agree that they're superior cars.
More and more people are trying Hyundai and Kia and over time you'll see that brand disparity cease.
More and more people are trying Hyundai and Kia and over time you'll see that brand disparity cease.
12-04-16, 09:51 AM
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Actually my sister's friend picked up a new Focus within the last year and failed to realize the car had manual windows and door locks. Her and her mother did not even think to check for those as they thought automatic doors and windows were an industry standard. They sure were wrong.
http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/models/
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12-04-16, 01:08 PM
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I've said it before and I will say it again, I don't find any of Toyota or Hondas current offerings as appealing as what is similar in each segment from Hyundai and Kia. While I agree people buy them because they're Hondas or Toyotas, I no longer agree that they're superior cars.
More and more people are trying Hyundai and Kia and over time you'll see that brand disparity cease.
More and more people are trying Hyundai and Kia and over time you'll see that brand disparity cease.
So there are 3 cars that impress me right now inside and out:
1) 2017 Kia Candenza
2) 2017 Genesis G80 Sport (waiting for this car to see in person before make decision on one of the 3)
3) 2016 Lexus GS 350 Sport
02-15-17, 05:19 PM
#52
for the price of a used 2015 genesis, u can pick up a base cadenza 2017 right now. if they ever have a nice lease deal then ill pick one up.
cadenza is one great looking sedan.
cadenza is one great looking sedan.
I agree with you. I went to Honda dealer looking for Honda Accord Touring and impressed with the exterior, but after step inside I said to myself "Hell no". Toyota Camry is even worse than Honda Accord.
So there are 3 cars that impress me right now inside and out:
1) 2017 Kia Candenza
2) 2017 Genesis G80 Sport (waiting for this car to see in person before make decision on one of the 3)
3) 2016 Lexus GS 350 Sport
So there are 3 cars that impress me right now inside and out:
1) 2017 Kia Candenza
2) 2017 Genesis G80 Sport (waiting for this car to see in person before make decision on one of the 3)
3) 2016 Lexus GS 350 Sport
02-15-17, 05:25 PM
#53
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I saw my first 2017 Cadenza at the Chicago auto show yesterday. It was a loaded model. Very nice!
02-15-17, 05:56 PM
#54
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Did Kia have a test-drive circuit set up there at the Chicago show? They have one set up every year here at the D.C. show...but it's just a few blocks around the central city streets near the Convention Center. Still better than nothing, though.
02-15-17, 06:56 PM
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Yes, Kia had a test drive circuit along with Mazda, Ford and Subaru. I was going to drive a CX5 but didn't get around to it before we had to leave.
02-15-17, 07:36 PM
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Toyota also usually has one...and Scion before its demise.
I did a review on a CX-5 not that long ago, in 2016. It will give you a basic idea of what it is like. To my knowledge, it hasn't significantly changed for 2017.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
I was going to drive a CX5 but didn't get around to it before we had to leave.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
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02-15-17, 07:58 PM
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Toyota also usually has one...and Scion before its demise.
I did a review on a CX-5 not that long ago, in 2016. It will give you a basic idea of what it is like. To my knowledge, it hasn't significantly changed for 2017.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
I did a review on a CX-5 not that long ago, in 2016. It will give you a basic idea of what it is like. To my knowledge, it hasn't significantly changed for 2017.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
02-16-17, 10:19 AM
#58
Toyota also usually has one...and Scion before its demise.
I did a review on a CX-5 not that long ago, in 2016. It will give you a basic idea of what it is like. To my knowledge, it hasn't significantly changed for 2017.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
I did a review on a CX-5 not that long ago, in 2016. It will give you a basic idea of what it is like. To my knowledge, it hasn't significantly changed for 2017.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...da-cx-5-a.html
02-16-17, 10:34 AM
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That's where it gets confusing. 
Mazda (supposedly) introduced a "2017" model at the L.A. Auto Show late last year, but my understanding was that it was going to be marketed as a 2018 model, going on sale late this year. Now, Mazda has a "2016.5" model-year CX-5 already on its website, on sale now. That suggests either a face-lifted model this year, or the all new model simply bumped up some. Whatever.
https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/cx-5
Mazda (supposedly) introduced a "2017" model at the L.A. Auto Show late last year, but my understanding was that it was going to be marketed as a 2018 model, going on sale late this year. Now, Mazda has a "2016.5" model-year CX-5 already on its website, on sale now. That suggests either a face-lifted model this year, or the all new model simply bumped up some. Whatever. https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/cx-5
02-16-17, 10:48 AM
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That's where it gets confusing. Mazda (supposedly) introduced a "2017" model at the L.A. Auto Show late last year, but my understanding was that it was going to be marketed as a 2018 model, going on sale late this year. Now, Mazda has a "2016.5" model-year CX-5 already on its website, on sale now. That suggests either a face-lifted model this year, or the all new model simply bumped up some. Whatever.
https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/cx-5
Mazda (supposedly) introduced a "2017" model at the L.A. Auto Show late last year, but my understanding was that it was going to be marketed as a 2018 model, going on sale late this year. Now, Mazda has a "2016.5" model-year CX-5 already on its website, on sale now. That suggests either a face-lifted model this year, or the all new model simply bumped up some. Whatever. https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/cx-5
http://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/what...sc=1-443776203
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