was this really so hard to avoid?
10-27-16, 10:54 PM
#1
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
was this really so hard to avoid?
i get that it's dark, but seriously it's a perfectly straight highway how hard is it to see lights directly in front of you
10-28-16, 09:26 AM
#3
Lexus Champion
The first car is sitting in the left lane, with no tail lights on, other than a left turn signal. No flares; no warning triangles; no 4-way hazards; on a highway at night. It is far from easy to discern from a distance that the car is just sitting there in the fast lane, not moving, even if it has lights on. People driving in clear traffic on the highway don't expect that there is a stopped car sitting in the lane, aside from when the entire highway is backed up.
For someone who claims to have driven the speeds that you do, I'm surprised you don't have a better understanding of this.
For someone who claims to have driven the speeds that you do, I'm surprised you don't have a better understanding of this.
Last edited by tex2670; 10-28-16 at 09:31 AM.
10-28-16, 05:25 PM
#4
Lexus Fanatic
That first BMW that spun out, just barely avoiding them, was going much too fast. Speed limits are posted for a reason. 
It's hard to tell if most of the vehicles behind them were actually speeding or not, though one dark-colored car, weaving and very lucky to miss the others, clearly was.
Even for those vehicles that got through the wrecks without adding to it, I'd bet their tires picked up a lot of road-debris, and probably went flat a couple of minutes later.
And, of course, the main issue......I hope nobody got killed or seriously hurt.
It's hard to tell if most of the vehicles behind them were actually speeding or not, though one dark-colored car, weaving and very lucky to miss the others, clearly was.
Even for those vehicles that got through the wrecks without adding to it, I'd bet their tires picked up a lot of road-debris, and probably went flat a couple of minutes later.
And, of course, the main issue......I hope nobody got killed or seriously hurt.
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-28-16 at 05:31 PM.
10-28-16, 05:33 PM
#5
Lexus Fanatic
..........provided there's actually ROOM to speed in the gridlock. Same problem here in the D.C. area where I live, where our traffic is second only to L.A.'s.
10-29-16, 05:42 PM
#7
Yep, i'm guessing some were distracted by phones. Also, those people in the Dodge were really stupid to open the doors and jump out like that right after impact. They are very lucky.
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10-29-16, 05:46 PM
#8
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10-29-16, 07:36 PM
#9
Lexus Test Driver
That first BMW that spun out, just barely avoiding them, was going much too fast. Speed limits are posted for a reason.
It's hard to tell if most of the vehicles behind them were actually speeding or not, though one dark-colored car, weaving and very lucky to miss the others, clearly was.
Even for those vehicles that got through the wrecks without adding to it, I'd bet their tires picked up a lot of road-debris, and probably went flat a couple of minutes later.
And, of course, the main issue......I hope nobody got killed or seriously hurt.
It's hard to tell if most of the vehicles behind them were actually speeding or not, though one dark-colored car, weaving and very lucky to miss the others, clearly was.
Even for those vehicles that got through the wrecks without adding to it, I'd bet their tires picked up a lot of road-debris, and probably went flat a couple of minutes later.
And, of course, the main issue......I hope nobody got killed or seriously hurt.
Bimmer looked older and likely had a clapped out suspension with equally shoddy tires.
Dodge was likely texting and driving, only noticing and accordingly slamming the brakes much too late.
Ill go with the same on several others.
10-29-16, 07:57 PM
#10
Lexus Fanatic
Oh boy, not the "speed limits save lives" spiel again.
Bimmer looked older and likely had a clapped out suspension with equally shoddy tires.
Dodge was likely texting and driving, only noticing and accordingly slamming the brakes much too late.
Ill go with the same on several others.
Bimmer looked older and likely had a clapped out suspension with equally shoddy tires.
Dodge was likely texting and driving, only noticing and accordingly slamming the brakes much too late.
Ill go with the same on several others.
Here's a good article on the subject.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news...r-speed-limits
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-29-16 at 08:01 PM.
10-29-16, 08:09 PM
#11
Lexus Test Driver
Well, speed combined with head-up-one's-butt inattentiveness with a cell phone or video-device just makes it that much worse.
Here's a good article on the subject.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news...r-speed-limits
Here's a good article on the subject.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news...r-speed-limits
Before nav became standard in my vehicles, I would set the cruise to 5 under in the wuss lane and pull up google maps a few seconds at a time when I had no vehicles within 10 seconds in front of me. If in town or dense but moving traffic I'd just pull off the road and check there.
10-30-16, 02:52 PM
#12
Lexus Champion
Oh boy, not the "speed limits save lives" spiel again.
Bimmer looked older and likely had a clapped out suspension with equally shoddy tires.
Dodge was likely texting and driving, only noticing and accordingly slamming the brakes much too late.
Ill go with the same on several others.
Bimmer looked older and likely had a clapped out suspension with equally shoddy tires.
Dodge was likely texting and driving, only noticing and accordingly slamming the brakes much too late.
Ill go with the same on several others.
10-30-16, 05:16 PM
#13
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
10-30-16, 06:38 PM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
I'm not even going to watch the video because I already know what happened and what the outcome was. Someone never bothered to pull over to the far, right emergency shoulder after becoming disabled. Then said person never bothered to set up proper lighting (hazards) or flares. All of this was taught in driver's ed. Another vehicle comes along NOT LOOKING FAR AHEAD, as we are taught to do in driver's ed. Second vehicle hits disabled vehicle, and so on. This is a nightly event in L.A., as people do not pay attention, do not look more than a few car lengths ahead of them, are on their phones or eating, and do not pull over or put their hazards lights on after blocking a lane. All are law-breaking acts, disrespectful, and totally selfish behaviors. When one gets behind the wheel, he/she needs to think of others. This is where all trouble begins.
10-30-16, 08:18 PM
#15
Lexus Fanatic
I'm not even going to watch the video because I already know what happened and what the outcome was. Someone never bothered to pull over to the far, right emergency shoulder after becoming disabled. Then said person never bothered to set up proper lighting (hazards) or flares. All of this was taught in driver's ed. Another vehicle comes along NOT LOOKING FAR AHEAD, as we are taught to do in driver's ed. Second vehicle hits disabled vehicle, and so on. This is a nightly event in L.A., as people do not pay attention, do not look more than a few car lengths ahead of them, are on their phones or eating, and do not pull over or put their hazards lights on after blocking a lane.All are law-breaking acts, disrespectful, and totally selfish behaviors. When one gets behind the wheel, he/she needs to think of others. This is where all trouble begins.
Last edited by mmarshall; 10-31-16 at 03:17 PM.