Mercedes e350 bluetec gas mileage is very impressive.
10-25-16, 05:15 PM
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Your reported mileage is about what you can expect from a diesel engine and vehicle that size. Diesels, on the average, get about 40-50% better mileage than comparable gas engines. Of course, we know, however, that VW achieved some of their very high diesel figures with some cheating. 
10-26-16, 12:19 PM
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Its probably because that was the 4 cylinder diesel S-class with less than 200hp that does 0-60 in 10 seconds.
10-26-16, 02:02 PM
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10-26-16, 09:59 PM
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Do I live in congested London????
Ordering an S-class with a diesel(or the hybrid option) is like ordering Kobe beef well done. Its a freaking $130,000 luxury car, the whole point of the car is excess. Why would you even care about fuel economy if you're spending that much money in the first place???? I mean I know why the 4 cylinder diesel S-class exists, because of draconian taxes in Europe and for limo operators over there as well, but it doesn't make sense in the US where fuel is cheap and we aren't taxed out the a@@ on luxury goods and big displacement engines.
Ordering an S-class with a diesel(or the hybrid option) is like ordering Kobe beef well done. Its a freaking $130,000 luxury car, the whole point of the car is excess. Why would you even care about fuel economy if you're spending that much money in the first place???? I mean I know why the 4 cylinder diesel S-class exists, because of draconian taxes in Europe and for limo operators over there as well, but it doesn't make sense in the US where fuel is cheap and we aren't taxed out the a@@ on luxury goods and big displacement engines.
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10-27-16, 11:10 AM
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A bit better than my chipped (290hp/500lbft) 335d, but I'll chalk that primarily up to mostly city driving in my case, vs. highway in yours. Have seen upper-thirties on full tanks with 90+% highway. Lifetime fuel economy over ~58k miles is in my sig:
10-28-16, 09:38 AM
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Honestly, I don't think 33-34 mpg highway from a diesel is "pretty amazing". Disappointing is more like it. I get 32-33 mpg highway in my 328 with a 2.0T.
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10-28-16, 01:11 PM
#11
Keep in mind that the E350 diesel, along with the 335d are the "performance" diesel options in Europe. In that Mercedes they offer a 2.1 liter 4 cylinder diesel in various states of tune, along with that same 3.0 V6 diesel as in the OP's car in various states of tune, we get the hottest diesel version here in the states. BMW is the same way.
11-09-20, 06:49 PM
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Our first hybrid was a 2010 Prius, which was replaced by our current 2018 Prius Prime. I also have a 2016 RX450h F-Sport which I purchased new in 2016. I learned several things about Toyota hybrid MPG from our 2010 Prius.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.
11-09-20, 07:34 PM
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Our first hybrid was a 2010 Prius, which was replaced by our current 2018 Prius Prime. I also have a 2016 RX450h F-Sport which I purchased new in 2016. I learned several things about Toyota hybrid MPG from our 2010 Prius.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.
As far as whether the winter-blend gasoline/ethanol mix itself affects mileage or not, that one I don't know for sure
....I'm not a chemist. Maybe someone else can chime in on that one....although I do know that, in general, the more the ratio of ethanol to gas, the lower the mileage...ethanol has only about 50-60% of the efficiency of gasoline. It is used primarily because it burns much cleaner, does not come from petroleum/crude-oil sources, and can be made from corn and a number of other bio-sources.Hope that helps.
Last edited by mmarshall; 11-09-20 at 07:49 PM.
11-09-20, 07:59 PM
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Our first hybrid was a 2010 Prius, which was replaced by our current 2018 Prius Prime. I also have a 2016 RX450h F-Sport which I purchased new in 2016. I learned several things about Toyota hybrid MPG from our 2010 Prius.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.
1. The car will get less MPG during the winter. I don't know what the causes are, but probably a combination of winter-blend gas, lower temperatures affecting the battery, weather, and who knows what else.
2. The car is sensitive to tire rolling resistance. When I replaced the original factory (noisy, rough) tires with standard Toyo tires, I believe I paid between 4 - 6 MPG penalty. One year later, I threw away those very low mileage Toyos and replaced them with Bridgestone Ecopia ("green") tires and immediately regained my lost 4 - 6 MPG. Non-green tires make a huge difference in MPG.
3. MPG seems to be reduced by moisture on the road. This may sound silly, but it seems like when driving on wet roads (not just damp, but wet, especially with standing water), it seems MPG is less. My theory is not only that the tires have to plow through standing water, but the tires pick up water off the road and water surface tension in effect creates drag, which translates into reduced MPG.