Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Genesis G90 reviews and news

Old 10-11-16, 11:02 AM
  #286  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
this is nothing new. and it's hardly limited to mercedes or even vehicles.

the amount some people waste on boats, planes, jewelry, etc., is pretty stunning.
..........And, don't forget that during the Bush 41, Clinton, and early Bush 43 years, on top of their already high prices, we had a Federal Luxury tax on those items...and some upmarket vehicles as well.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-11-16, 09:13 PM
  #287  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 183 Likes on 142 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that doesn't make sense. since the lease payment is based off:
(new price - expected depreciated price at lease end) / # payments

so if lease price is low, the financier doesn't expect the value of the car to go down a lot. if they expect it to drop like a rock, the lease won't be that low. if there's lots of 'incentives' in there somehow to rig the math, then who's making any money?
can easily happen. a brand can jack up the residual so the lease payments are low. but true market price at lease ends tanks badly. the financial institutes take the hit. it's all in the math, it's always doable.

and it has been done over and over again. a lot of bmw are done like this, their residuals are higher than their actual worth. and even for lexus. just look at the 2013-2015 gs, lease deals were crazy (that's why i have one), but it's so flooded that the market value is thousands below residual. someone takes a lot of loss on paper

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
this is nothing new. and it's hardly limited to mercedes or even vehicles.

the amount some people waste on boats, planes, jewelry, etc., is pretty stunning.
i didn't say only mercedes depreciates, did i?

what i was saying is whoever says hyundai depreciates bad, they should take a real close look at mercedes, which is among the top in luxury car brands
rominl is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 11:56 AM
  #288  
Mr. Burns
Lexus Champion
 
Mr. Burns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canuckistan
Posts: 1,874
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

The biggest problem with this car is that it's outdated. Would have been great in 2010, and it looks like it's from 2010.
Mr. Burns is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 02:05 PM
  #289  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
The biggest problem with this car is that it's outdated. Would have been great in 2010, and it looks like it's from 2010.
How is it outdated? It certainly looks quite different from its Equus predecessor.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 02:13 PM
  #290  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
The biggest problem with this car is that it's outdated. Would have been great in 2010, and it looks like it's from 2010.
LOL, I completely disagree.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 10-16-16, 03:07 PM
  #291  
Mr. Burns
Lexus Champion
 
Mr. Burns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Canuckistan
Posts: 1,874
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mmarshall
How is it outdated? It certainly looks quite different from its Equus predecessor.
I'm looking at a car from an insurance commercial circa 2010:



Sorry but aside from the price I see nothing desirable about this car. They had an opportunity to bring a product with standout styling and innovative world first tech (probably in autonomy) and blew it.
Mr. Burns is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 03:58 PM
  #292  
UDel
Lexus Fanatic
 
UDel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ------
Posts: 12,274
Received 296 Likes on 223 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
I'm looking at a car from an insurance commercial circa 2010:



Sorry but aside from the price I see nothing desirable about this car. They had an opportunity to bring a product with standout styling and innovative world first tech (probably in autonomy) and blew it.
420hp V8, roomy, RWD, beautiful interior, good proportions, too many luxury features to list all for 15-20K+ less then its competitors with likely better reliability then German competition is nothing desirable? What is so special about another car that is offering even less driver interaction so you can doodle on your phone for a little longer while not paying attention to the road? I find this autonomous nonsense highly over hyped and a step in the wrong direction for luxury/sports cars.

Have not seen one yet on the road, styling may be a little bland but so are most cars in its segment, it is still nice looking and certainly much better looking then the LS460 inside and out. New 7 series looks more like a CUV with its smashed in high nose, current A8 is no beauty like the last generation was.
UDel is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 05:11 PM
  #293  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

You should drive the car lol
SW17LS is online now  
Old 10-16-16, 05:14 PM
  #294  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW15LS
You should drive the car lol
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 05:17 PM
  #295  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW15LS
You should drive the car lol
One of my mottos..........Drive before Jive.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 06:01 PM
  #296  
MattyG
Lexus Champion
 
MattyG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: RightHere
Posts: 2,300
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Generally flagship class buyers aren't necessarily interested in outrageous over the top styling statements. They just want a car packed with tech and that isolates them from the driving environment. Giving in to fads of the day just means your top of the line model looks silly some years down the road. So the Genesis G90 is just an understated first stand-alone attempt by Hyundai to enter the top tier of luxury car sales.

In person, I think the G90 will present far better than in pictures. If you look at Roll Royce's Phantom - that is not exactly some sort of beauty queen, but it does exude presence. Same goes for BMW's 7 series. MB's S class is the winner here with understated elegance but it's not an over the top styling statement either.
MattyG is offline  
Old 10-16-16, 06:06 PM
  #297  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,505
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MattyG
Generally flagship class buyers aren't necessarily interested in outrageous over the top styling statements. They just want a car packed with tech and that isolates them from the driving environment. Giving in to fads of the day just means your top of the line model looks silly some years down the road. So the Genesis G90 is just an understated first stand-alone attempt by Hyundai to enter the top tier of luxury car sales.
Hyundai tried that with the last-generation Sonata, and learned its lesson....the current Sonata is considerably more conventional in styling, inside and out (and, IMO, much better-looking), than the last one was.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 10-17-16, 12:27 PM
  #298  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

I don't think the G90 is gorgeous, but I don't think anything in that class is "gorgeous" except perhaps the S550 and the Jaguar XJ. like I said, the G90 is very much the same recipe as the Lexus LS, it's never been a cutting edge or gorgeous car either. I've had 3 all the same...

In my experience cars that are really striking when new often aren't so striking over time. Conservative attractive cars have better staying power, and i think the G90 qualifies there.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 10-17-16, 08:09 PM
  #299  
dseag2
Lexus Champion
 
dseag2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: TX
Posts: 4,662
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW15LS
I don't think the G90 is gorgeous, but I don't think anything in that class is "gorgeous" except perhaps the S550 and the Jaguar XJ. like I said, the G90 is very much the same recipe as the Lexus LS, it's never been a cutting edge or gorgeous car either. I've had 3 all the same...

In my experience cars that are really striking when new often aren't so striking over time. Conservative attractive cars have better staying power, and i think the G90 qualifies there.
Totally agree. I saw a new Genesis G90 at a recent auto show and I think it has a nice, understated presence. Heck, I saw an early 2000's LS430 on the road today, and thought "that is still a nice looking car." There is something to be said for conservative styling.
dseag2 is offline  
Old 10-18-16, 09:46 AM
  #300  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,438
Received 2,497 Likes on 1,800 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dseag2
Totally agree. I saw a new Genesis G90 at a recent auto show and I think it has a nice, understated presence. Heck, I saw an early 2000's LS430 on the road today, and thought "that is still a nice looking car." There is something to be said for conservative styling.
Absolutely, all of them are still nice looking cars. Think about how a late 90s 7 Series looks vs the bangle 7.
SW17LS is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Genesis G90 reviews and news



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:53 PM.