C&D review: Cadillac XT5 doesn't fare too well
#16
Lead Lap
Yup. Some other examples of poor sharing are the Maserati ghibli. Sat in one, and couldnt be funnier to see the U Connect system lifted straight out of FCA group Dodge, Jeep. Window switches straight out as well. Good thing it handles and sounds like pure ........
#17
Lexus Test Driver
Jill basically hit the nail on the head.
Not too long ago 0-60 in the mid 6s was supercar territory.
As far as quality goes, they do have a point. We just took a 2015 Escalade on trade.. nice car, nice interior, I took it home for the night just to see what it was like compared to an LX. One of the first things I noticed was that the grab handle on the passenger's A pillar looked like it was made by Rubbermaid.
Nice car, nice interior but stupid stuff like that just lets the whole thing down IMO.
Not too long ago 0-60 in the mid 6s was supercar territory.
As far as quality goes, they do have a point. We just took a 2015 Escalade on trade.. nice car, nice interior, I took it home for the night just to see what it was like compared to an LX. One of the first things I noticed was that the grab handle on the passenger's A pillar looked like it was made by Rubbermaid.
Nice car, nice interior but stupid stuff like that just lets the whole thing down IMO.
#18
Lexus Fanatic
#19
Not sure what C&Ds problem is:
1. It has a 0-60mph of 6.6 seconds. How fast does it need to go?
2. Compared to a SQ5. Why would you compare a standard vehicle to a Sport line model?
3. Interior was nice, like they said.
4. Shift levers/buttons are all different. So what? Perhaps it adds a level of sophistication
5. Skidpad of .84G is pretty darn good.
6. It DOES NOT have a hideous front end. That should be enough to win a comparo
Perhaps Cadillac pulled the plug on C&D advertising this much
1. It has a 0-60mph of 6.6 seconds. How fast does it need to go?
2. Compared to a SQ5. Why would you compare a standard vehicle to a Sport line model?
3. Interior was nice, like they said.
4. Shift levers/buttons are all different. So what? Perhaps it adds a level of sophistication
5. Skidpad of .84G is pretty darn good.
6. It DOES NOT have a hideous front end. That should be enough to win a comparo
Perhaps Cadillac pulled the plug on C&D advertising this much
For Point #1, they comment on how competitors achieve times of 5.2 to 5.9 seconds.
For #2, it's because the XT5 is priced similarly to the SQ5
For #3, yes the interior of the Platinum was nice, but they still found many rough edges and finishes and some lacking little details, but luxury cars are supposed to be about getting all the little details correct and uniform.
For #5, yes they said that the handling figures were more on par with the competitors, again save for the sporty minded SQ5.
I think the article got it right. Yes, the XT5 is better than the SRX, which is great for Cadillac as it has sold a ton of SRX's and will have good chance to keep most of those buyers with this new model, but it doesn't seem to go far enough to attract new buyers into the fold, which is what the brand desperately needs.
#20
Lead Lap
Inside the materials are fancy and upscale. I just hope they last longer then their other products. Would loved the high gloss black trim, but realized that was scratch prone,
Sidenote:
Everyone in from A-Z in the car industry (talking about dealers and owners alike) has a class system.
Talk to a Acura Dealership, Buick is below them, Lexus, BMW, Audi, Merc are on their level.
Talk to a Volvo dealership Acura, Lexus are below them, they compete only with de germans
Talk to a lexus dealership. Acura, Volvo are below them, they compete only with de germans.
Its funny
#21
Lexus Fanatic
Sidenote:
Everyone in from A-Z in the car industry (talking about dealers and owners alike) has a class system.
Talk to a Acura Dealership, Buick is below them, Lexus, BMW, Audi, Merc are on their level.
Talk to a Volvo dealership Acura, Lexus are below them, they compete only with de germans
Talk to a lexus dealership. Acura, Volvo are below them, they compete only with de germans.
Its funny
However what I meant was that the RX, MKX, and XT5 are a different style and type if vehicle than what MB, Audi, and BMW offers at that price point. Not really the badge, but the vehicle itself.
An A3, ILX and Verano could all be compared. But an IS, A4, and c-class are all a notch above. But then in some ways you could compare a Land Cruiser with a Range Rover.
#23
Lexus Fanatic
I'm not saying don't complain about things that clearly could be better (I do so myself, and that's the whole purpose of vehicle reviews in the first place)....but when something like that becomes the deciding factor, IMO somebody has got some messed up priorities.
#24
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Isn't that just a common downside of shared platform vehicles? Lexus is guilty of it as well, though it feels like they've been trying to move away from that with their newer models. My GX 460 has plenty of "cheap" parts that clearly carried over from the Toyota LC Prado that it's based on. The grab handles, signal stalks, cruise control stalk, center console, door handle, etc. all feel cheap and lifted straight off a downmarket car.
#25
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
I agree. When trivial stuff like that becomes a deal-breaker, IMO we've just become too picky and spoiled.
I'm not saying don't complain about things that clearly could be better (I do so myself, and that's the whole purpose of vehicle reviews in the first place)....but when something like that becomes the deciding factor, IMO somebody has got some messed up priorities.
I'm not saying don't complain about things that clearly could be better (I do so myself, and that's the whole purpose of vehicle reviews in the first place)....but when something like that becomes the deciding factor, IMO somebody has got some messed up priorities.
#26
Lexus Fanatic
So at least Cadillac is paying attention to major things. The details don't bother everyone
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 07-14-16 at 11:04 AM.
#27
Lexus Test Driver
I'm not aware of the ATS sharing it's chintzy instrument panel with any other GM cars, but look around and that's one of the top complaints about that car--that it "belongs in a" [fill in the blank cheap car]. And no one would complain if their Chevy Cruze started including higher-class trim pieces from Cadillac or Buick. And almost every writer that knocks the CUE also points out that the Chevy and Buick infotainment systems are better--so would it be ok to share that, or no?
#28
Lexus Fanatic
The "parts bin" complaint has been around forever, and will be around until car companies only have one brand.
I'm not aware of the ATS sharing it's chintzy instrument panel with any other GM cars, but look around and that's one of the top complaints about that car--that it "belongs in a" [fill in the blank cheap car].
I'm not aware of the ATS sharing it's chintzy instrument panel with any other GM cars, but look around and that's one of the top complaints about that car--that it "belongs in a" [fill in the blank cheap car].
And no one would complain if their Chevy Cruze started including higher-class trim pieces from Cadillac or Buick.
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