Sat in a new MB E Class today, I was underwhelmed
06-23-16, 11:05 AM
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It was an E300, correct. No E400 in the US yet.
Its like all Mercedes models, unless they get the right packages and upgrades, they actually are pretty homely...I also have found that while I like Lexus, BMW and Audi models better in person than in pictures, in general I like Mercedes models in pictures better than in person. The exception is the S Class.
This wasn't destined to be a taxi lol, and this wasn't in Europe. The car was $60,000...same as what my Luxury GS350 was, and that car was a much nicer car inside and out than the E Class I saw.
If that car was $50,000 that would be one thing...
Its like all Mercedes models, unless they get the right packages and upgrades, they actually are pretty homely...I also have found that while I like Lexus, BMW and Audi models better in person than in pictures, in general I like Mercedes models in pictures better than in person. The exception is the S Class.
This wasn't destined to be a taxi lol, and this wasn't in Europe. The car was $60,000...same as what my Luxury GS350 was, and that car was a much nicer car inside and out than the E Class I saw.
If that car was $50,000 that would be one thing...
06-23-16, 11:12 AM
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One bratwurst, different lengths
06-23-16, 11:37 AM
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I would say material quality in the W213 I sat in was a step down from the W212, but the styling and ergonomics were better.
Originally Posted by chikoo
I have used e400 in my mb dealer parking lot. What are you talking about - No e400 in the US?
The E400 is coming, but not until next year probably.
06-23-16, 11:46 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure about that just yet. MBUSA is being really sketchy on this one. The E400 hasn't shown up on any internal US documents that I've seen from my usual source. Seems to be slated to follow the pattern set by the C-class (C300, C43, C63) as it stands.
Would be nice if they squeezed an E400 in there though.
Would be nice if they squeezed an E400 in there though.
06-23-16, 12:06 PM
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06-23-16, 12:18 PM
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06-23-16, 12:21 PM
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Going to be at that same price point though.
Bottom line IMHO is they need a easily accessible V6 option. Otherwise they become the only midsize entry without that. I'm not buying a 4cyl E class, non enthusiasts will, or people will "because its a Mercedes", but I want V6 power in a midlevel luxury car and V8 power in a full-sized luxury car. I drove a 740 and and S550 yesterday, and the feel of the engine in the 740 just isn't right.
Bottom line IMHO is they need a easily accessible V6 option. Otherwise they become the only midsize entry without that. I'm not buying a 4cyl E class, non enthusiasts will, or people will "because its a Mercedes", but I want V6 power in a midlevel luxury car and V8 power in a full-sized luxury car. I drove a 740 and and S550 yesterday, and the feel of the engine in the 740 just isn't right.
06-23-16, 12:29 PM
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Going to be at that same price point though.
Bottom line IMHO is they need a easily accessible V6 option. Otherwise they become the only midsize entry without that. I'm not buying a 4cyl E class, non enthusiasts will, or people will "because its a Mercedes", but I want V6 power in a midlevel luxury car and V8 power in a full-sized luxury car. I drove a 740 and and S550 yesterday, and the feel of the engine in the 740 just isn't right.
Bottom line IMHO is they need a easily accessible V6 option. Otherwise they become the only midsize entry without that. I'm not buying a 4cyl E class, non enthusiasts will, or people will "because its a Mercedes", but I want V6 power in a midlevel luxury car and V8 power in a full-sized luxury car. I drove a 740 and and S550 yesterday, and the feel of the engine in the 740 just isn't right.
As I've said multiple times, we'll be getting an sporty AMG E43 (V6 TT) but no luxury-focused V6 equivalent. There is an E400 planned for other markets...perhaps MBUSA is just waiting for the I6 engines to drop in 2017.
06-23-16, 02:49 PM
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What you saw at your dealer was the now previous generation W212 E-class, which was available in E400 form.
06-23-16, 02:55 PM
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The MBUSA website:
E300....thats all there be.
06-23-16, 04:23 PM
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06-23-16, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
Which is a huge mistake, who wants a little 4 cyl in a expensive C or E class type car?
I mean...the E is a big car for 242 hp to shove around.
06-23-16, 06:28 PM
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I think it's very important to distinguish between design, materials, and build quality. The W212's build quality and interior materials were great- the design, however, did not age well at all. And the SUV's that are currently still using that design language are worse off for it. Somehow I think the coupe still looks nice even though the interior isn't that different.
For the record, I think the W221 S-class aged extremely well and was still very competitive right up until the end.
For the record, I think the W221 S-class aged extremely well and was still very competitive right up until the end.
I agree the W221 was decent until the end but I wouldn't say it was head's and shoulders above the competition. Now the W220...that was a disaster.
