View Poll Results: Who was at fault
Subaru for tailgating
16
24.24%
Honda for brake checking
17
25.76%
Both of them
33
50.00%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll
don't tailgate....
#151
Lexus Champion
Ahhh, you remember the guy that blamed the bee!
#152
Lexus Fanatic
Not only his ego, but his need for speed as well.
It's not a crowd that brings that, but the simple laws of physics. While speed alone, of course, may not necessarily harm or kill unless you actually hit something, the scientific fact is that, all else equal, the faster you go, the more potential (kinetic) energy is stored in the moving vehicle, the harder and more severe the impact will be if you DO have an accident, and the more likelihood of injury or death. One can try to wish that fact away by blaming it on a crowd, but the crowd is not the determining factor. Remember, also...in general, the faster you go, the longer it will also take you to stop, and the longer your reaction-time before you actually get your foot on the brake
Originally Posted by litesoarer
This, from the same crowd that brought you "Speed Kills"
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-12-16 at 08:48 AM.
#153
#155
A police officer slammed on his brakes, but then gave the driver behind him a ticket! Monday night, that driver began the process of fighting the charges in court.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-accus...025649902.html
This comment is very interesting though...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-accus...025649902.html
This comment is very interesting though...
#157
Dash cams use a fisheye lens. It is like the peephole in your door. It makes things look much further away. The reality is he was about 8 feet behind him when he got brake checked. I run a dash cam in all my cars. The distance you see there is about the same as when I'm at a light behind someone. The distance distortion you have is what people don't get unless you run a cam.
#158
Lexus Fanatic
A police officer slammed on his brakes, but then gave the driver behind him a ticket! Monday night, that driver began the process of fighting the charges in court.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-accus...025649902.html
This comment is very interesting though...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-accus...025649902.html
This comment is very interesting though...
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-15-16 at 07:06 AM.
#159
I agree that what the cop did was not prudent (and even questionable)....but, legally, the guy following him, with three violations (glass too dark, tailgating, and no front plate) doesn't have much of an argument against it. If were him, I'd just shut up and pay the ticket....it would also save him whatever he's paying his lawyer.
#160
Lexus Test Driver
But watch the video again--It's not like the Pilot is a left lane squatter--he clearly was in the right lane, and then moved into the left lane to pass cars that were in the right lane. I can't get into the guy's head, but my WAG is that once the Subaru rode his ***, even though he was actually passing, that's when things got ugly, rather than the Pilot driver just moving back to the right lane. The Subaru could have been a little patient to wait for the Pilot to move back to the right lane, or flashed his high beams to nudge the Pilot a bit. And, as the video shows, brake checking the Subaru is extremely dangerous--but it's not like the Subaru driver backed off the first time--he only got closer.
Last edited by tex2670; 06-15-16 at 11:05 AM.
#161
Lexus Test Driver
If he's not tailgating, then there would be no need for him to slam on his brakes when the driver in front of him brake checked.
#163
Pole Position
I've never understood the point of brake checking someone. It seems like inherently irrational behavior.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
#164
I've never understood the point of brake checking someone. It seems like inherently irrational behavior.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
#165
Lexus Champion
I've never understood the point of brake checking someone. It seems like inherently irrational behavior.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
What's the problem with someone following too closely? You're worried they won't be able to stop in time if necessary and will rear-end you.
What is your solution? To then cause the exact scenario you're afraid of taking place.
People who brake check think they're taking the moral high road and telling an "aggressive" driver to back off but they themselves are acting in a highly aggressive manner that is likely to just escalate an incident. People do it to teach the other driver an unnecessary lesson.
If you're in the left lane, the lane in front of you is clear, and you're still slowly passing traffic on the right, the best thing to do if someone comes up behind you and is riding your tail is to temporarily halt your passing by moving over the right and then resuming your passing once they've cleared. You're not a left lane hog, you aren't holding someone up, you still get to do your own passing, and everyone continues on their merry way. Too many people treat driving like some sort of competition or moral battle.
And yes, I do brake check because if someone is following too closely behind me I want them to know they need to back off in case (god forbid) there is debris on the road or an accident I need to slow down for. They need to be able to slow accordingly without rear-ending me.