gengar

Cliffs Notes: Tetsuya Tada wants a performance division, possibly created by integrating Gazoo Racing into Toyota, to rival BMW M and MB's AMG.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/441775/t...sors-to-icons/

4 years too late, but better late than never? I do love his comment about the Celica GT-Four. That's the type of car we need in USA right now to keep affordable sportscars going, especially since we didn't get the last one Toyota made.

Mr Bond

That would be really great, bring back the Supra with the 3 liter turbo I6 engine and there would be no reason, at least for me, to buy a MB AMG or Audi S coupe. I actually think a car like the Supra would get many more customers here in Europe than any Lexus F . Supra along with the Nissan Skyline are still what many people here consider as the definition of modern street racing and tuning, and I know a lot of people waiting for a new Supra to come.

RX469

iTrader: (1)

Firstly, my disclaimer as a die hard Toyota enthusiast, Tetsuya wake the "F" up. You have proven that Toyota can't really do it. You keep giving us allot of half-baked quasi-performance vehicles which equals, boring.

I say this with allot of aggravation after many years of Toyota's attempts to give us performance oriented vehicles. As an example, look at how many mods new car buyers in this very forum does to get a little better performance out of their new Lexus, some of which should have been available stock, from initial designs, for a performance oriented vehicle as their F line or even the F-Sport.


Anyway, that's my aggravated rant at Tetsuya Tada for the subject of wanting a performance division to rival BMW M & MB's AMG. Gazoo Racing, TRD, F, if you want your cookies half-baked, then wait for it.

spwolf

Nobody would buy Supra in Europe, nobody is buying japanese coupes in Europe anymore.

I dont really trust Aussie mags when it comes to these kinds of interviews. They always translate things wrong on purpose to get story that sounds interesting. They have been claiming that FT-86 will get turbo version for last 4 years.

I simply dont see any demand for Toyota F versions, outside of Japan and USA. They could have sportier versions of Toyota's, but I see no reason for them to have true F versions.

cino

iTrader: (1)

The only thing they buy over there is Mustang. Europe is becoming the US. Everything is about bragging right and specs.

S2000toIS350

The guy seems to be bouncing in two directions.

If he wants to go after the Euro high performance cars, it has to be done within Lexus. they already the the f program so they just need a real commitment to build something on par but hopefully better than the next guy. Hopefully the LC-F will be such a car.

If he also wants to do something within the Toyota brand, then bring over a RWD platform JDM Toyota sedan that can sell some volume and put in a nice mid range Yamaha built V6 miil like the Ford SHO had or perhaps get a version of the Yamaha V8 Volvo had.

evident

how about just a new V6, please!

Jason2801

Tada San - use the LC new platform + engineer a new V6 twin turbo that is capable to stand power A LA Nissan GT-R engine rival (inline 6 is ideal) + use the FT-1 to build a production version and you can have a kick *** Toyota Supra. Come on Toyota jump back into the times.

You don't have enough current performance cars as it is to talk about a performance brand to add. You have TRD if anything.

RNM GS3

He will be lucky if the GT86 lives to see next generation.

Toyota makes all their decisions based on sales - nothing else.

The Supra will be MIA almost 20 years from US market.......

SNiiP3R

iTrader: (3)

Becuase of the strong yen, Toyota is going to lose billions this and upcoming years. Good luck getting any funds for this project from those bean counters at Toyota.

spwolf

Toyota will make few billions less, but they will still have at least $15 billion in profits.

I dont think that GT86 is going anywhere, it is up to Toyoda.

dseag2

In all fairness to Tada, the GT-R has hardly been a sales success for Nissan. Toyota would need to come into the market with something that is powerful and sports car-like that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. The Supra was not within many buyers' budgets when it left the building, much like the GT-R.

The sports coupe (BRZ or whatever it is called for Toyota) was a great start but needs a big brother.

Mr Bond

How many really sporty coupes from Japan are there on the European market ? GT86 may be sporty but way, way to weak in terms of power and acceleration. Im talking about 400 hp + cars now . RC-F is the only one i know and its has so bad reviews that even I as an Toyota/Lexus enthusiast dont care much for it.

chikoo

They need to stop mixing reliability with performance, and approach it with performance first, and then see if it is possible to make it reliable without affecting performance.

Aron9000

You can do both, performance and reliability. The Camaro and Corvette(minus the engine problems on the 2014 Vette) have proven over the years to be reliable. I say reliable, that doesn't mean particularly well made in terms of fit/finish on the interior bits. The S2000 is another example of a very durable/reliable car, especially considering how high the engine revs.

Where you run into reliability problems is with turbocharged performance cars. If you leave them alone, stock, yes they are reliable. But you know nobody does that, so cars like the Subie WRX, the Supra, Mitsubishi EVO, the 300ZX, they get an unfair rap for being kind of finicky because people mess with them(and in the case of the Subie, break transmissions doing 6000rpm clutch dumps)